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Designing4u

13th May 2005, 11:38

Designing 4 U is a design company that listens to you and reacts to your needs.
Since 2004 we have delivered bold, innovative solutions that build
awareness for our customers and their customers too.

We aim to create strong brands, which improve company performance and increase revenues.

Why are we different?

We can beat any competitor down on price
We can develop better ideas
We can fulfil any idea to the final stage
simply,
We can communicate what you want

http://www.designing4u.co.uk

tommy

13th May 2005, 18:31

Sorry but I can not seem to find your site??

Eagle

13th May 2005, 20:18

Working fine for me. :)

esynetics

19th July 2005, 13:46

Hi there

Not being funny but your site is very slow and doesnt really say much to me about your capabilities.

Anyway thats just my opinion.

No offence intended.

jasonj

19th July 2005, 16:59

Not another company telling everyone how great they are but at the same time saying they will beat anyone on price! If your that good then don't focus on being cheap. Stuff that breaks the first time you use it is cheap, books nobody wants to read are cheap. Almost everyone has an experience of buying something cheap and being disappointed. Less focus on price more focus on benefits of your service i would say.

kyber

21st July 2005, 15:28

Just for a laugh, I took a look at the source code for their front page. No wonder the page is so slow. Talk about archaic and convoluted. Wow.

I think they really need to improve their store before selling to others.

They may be good graphic designers (although this is not obvious to me) but on the evidence of their own website, they are not even off the starter blocks in terms of web site development.

Nice of them to post the advert though :-)

Stuart

Eagle

21st July 2005, 15:31

Lol. You should see mine... Tag Soup!

But then again, I'm not a web designer. :)

kyber

21st July 2005, 15:34

Under the hood, your site is much much better Eagle. (Although you really should stop using FONT to set the colours.)

Stuart

Eagle

21st July 2005, 15:43

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stop using FONT to set the colours
Any particular reason why?

And don't say CSS: I haven't got the time!!! :wink: :P :wink:

epiphany

21st July 2005, 16:22

because = ++file size :)

mumper

21st July 2005, 17:04

Why does the site take so long to load?

Sorry to be a bit dense here but I don't know anything about web design so I don't know what language Epiphany and Eagle are speaking :D :D

kyber

21st July 2005, 18:00

stop using FONT to set the colours
Any particular reason why?

And don't say CSS: I haven't got the time!!! :wink: :P :wink:

Ok, I won't say CSS. I saw the smilies. For other readers though, it takes longer to write and maintain code using old style markup like FONT tags than it does to use simple style settings. Use of FONT tags and the like also increases page sizes. Styles make it easier for the search engines to see the real value in your pages and simplifies matters for anyone needing accesibility assistance (large fonts, better contrast, screen readers, etc.).

No doubt you will get around to it and do a better job than an automated tools do (not least because it becomes more obvious how much of the code is redundant and you can fix that quickly, you can use better style names, and avoid the use of span): <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">

<HTML>

<HEAD>
<TITLE>Logo Design - Logo Designer - Graphic Designer - Eagle Imagery</TITLE>
<META NAME="Description"
CONTENT="Logo design and graphics. Print design, graphic design for web and vector conversion.">
<META NAME="Keywords"
CONTENT="graphic designer, logo design, company logo, logo, design, custom logo design, corporate logo, vector conversion, posters, flyers, brochures, digital, photo retouching">
<META HTTP-EQUIV="imagetoolbar" CONTENT="no">
<style type="text/css">

</style>
</HEAD>

<body>

<table border="0" class="c1">
<tr>
<td align="center" valign="top">
<table border="0" class="c2">
<tr>
<td colspan="5" align="center" class="c3">textheaders/5EagleHeaderHome.jpg (http://www.eagleimagery.co.uk/)</TD>
</TR>
<tr>
<td colspan="5" align="left" class="c3">Home</TD>
</TR>
<tr>
<td align="center" colspan="5" class="c5">textheaders/2home.gif (http://www.eagleimagery.co.uk/)textheaders/2logos.gif (logo.asp)textheaders/2othrsvcs.gif (0ther.asp)textheaders/2phot.gif (ph0t52.asp)textheaders/2print.gif (print.asp)</TD>
</TR>
<tr>
<td align="center" colspan="5" class="c5">textheaders/2testim.gif (testimonials.asp)textheaders/2faq.gif (logodesignfaq.asp)textheaders/2blnklow.giftextheaders/2links.gif (misc.asp)textheaders/2infocon.gif (c0nt4ct.asp)</TD>
</TR>
<tr>
<td align="center" class="c3"></TD>
<td align="left" class="c3"></TD>
<td align="center" class="c3"></TD>
<td align="center" class="c3"></TD>
<td align="center" class="c6"></TD>
</TR>
</TABLE>
<table border="0" cellpadding="12" class="c7">
<tr>
<td valign="top" align="left" class="c8">Introduction

Eagle Imagery
specialises in exclusive and original logo design for the discerning
client

Your logo is a graphic representation of your company name,
trademark or brand. A unique, recognisable identity or 'corporate
logo' has become an essential part of business strategy and success
so it's vital that proper consideration be given to this aspect.
Eagle Imagery will make you stand out from your competitors with a
unique and eye-catching design

International
Clientele

Although based in
the UK, recent design projects have been located in the United
States, Norway, Germany, Australia, India and Singapore. Enquiries
are welcome from anywhere

</TD>
<td valign="top" class="c8">Services
at a glance

•
Logo Design for print and web

• Vector Conversion

• Stationery Design

• Stationery Printing

• Posters/Flyers and Brochures

• Banner design

• Adobe PDF Documents

• In-game Graphics

• Web-based advertising

• Digital Photo Retouching

• Media Cover Artwork

<A HREF="0ther.asp">and
more...</A>

Working Practice

A friendly but
industrious relationship with all clients. We work through the
design process together via email accompanied by regular updates for
review and critique. See 'testimonials' (testimonials.asp)</TD>
<td valign="top" class="c8">Contact

textheaders/ema1l.gif (mailto:eagle@eagleimagery.co.uk)

News / Announcements

• Congratulations on Britain's
successful bid on the 2012 Olympic Games! Eagle Imagery is in a
favourable position to work on design projects for business ventures
in connection with the Olympics

• Several logos by Eagle Imagery
selected by international judging panel for 'LogoLounge 2'.
Published by Rockport (http://www.rockpub.com)

In bookshops (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1592531121)
now...

miscimgs/ll2.jpg (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1592531121)</TD>
</TR>
</TABLE>
<table border="0" cellpadding="20" class="c12">
<tr>
<td align="center" colspan="3" class="c13">home (http://www.eagleimagery.co.uk/)
• info/contact (c0nt4ct.asp)
• logos (logo.asp) •
other services (0ther.asp)
• photography (ph0t52.asp)
• testimonials (testimonials.asp)
• print orders (print.asp)•
links (misc.asp)

All content
copyright Eagle Imagery™ 1998-2005 unless otherwise stated</TD>
</TR>
</TABLE></TD>
</TR>
</TABLE>82510
</BODY>
</HTML>

Stuart

Eagle

21st July 2005, 18:09

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Cheers. :) Know any good resource sites for CSS novices?

kyber

21st July 2005, 18:17

My old post (http://www.ukbusinessforums.co.uk/viewtopic.php?p=3784#3784)on building a web site has some useful links that will get you started on the background to this and then a search for Introduction to CSS on Google will list many useful sites.

Personally, I find it a lot easier to understand and use than old style markup. Much more suited to designers as well even though the control (or rather the quality of browser support) is not all it could be at present.

There are some very good books out there. I forgot the ones I read to get started - I am working in Ireland at the moment building 400Gb analytical cubes - but will have a look when I have a chance. [Yup, sent me a reminder.]

If you are using Dreamweaver (and possibly even if not) I very strongly recommend the Foundations (http://www.projectseven.com/books/foundationsmx/index.htm)ebook from Project Seven (http://www.projectseven.com) as a very pragmatic way of getting into using and abusing css whilst getting on with things.

Stuart

kyber

21st July 2005, 18:34

Just remembered one of the books I read: Cascading Style Sheets (http://www.glasshaus.com/bookInfo.asp?bookId=59) Recommended. It looks like they are doing an update; check out the home page for details of the new publishers.... found it (http://www.friendsofed.com/books/159059231x/).

There are some brilliant pointers for you on the web site (http://www.thenoodleincident.com/) of one of the authors.

Stuart

epiphany

21st July 2005, 19:35

best resource on the web for css tutorials is the w3c site

http://www.w3schools.com/css/default.asp

Cornish Steve

21st July 2005, 21:41

Chris,

Thanks for posting your message on this board. From my short time spent frequenting this place, I've learned that there are a lot of web designers present - so don't be surprised at all the feedback. Don't be discouraged either, because you'll see from other threads that everyone is willing to offer advice and to provide help.

I did want to point out one error in the content of your home page - it will be simple to correct. The quote should read:

"Only those who will risk going too far can possibly find out how far one can go." T.S.Eliot (with only one L)

Good luck with your venture.

Cornish Steve

21st July 2005, 21:51

Not another company telling everyone how great they are but at the same time saying they will beat anyone on price!

While it is usually the case that a company must either differentiate or compete on price (one of Porter's laws as I remember), it is not universally true. Some companies are able to offer both greater value and a lower price. If you don't believe me, spend some time reading "Blue Ocean Strategy" by Kim & Mauborgne. I recommend it; it's a great book.