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giftoffer
12th February 2009, 22:55
Dear All,
I have a UK gifts and Perfumes shop
giftoffer co uk
I would like to know how to get similar links and imporve google rating.
Thanks for reading !
Delicious Webdesign
12th February 2009, 23:12
i would say forget about the links and do some onsite tidying up and seo.
I needed a break from working but had a quick look at your code and you seem to have a massive amount of internal links from your index page (well over 100) which im sure is doing you no favours, the title could be tweaked a bit and there are lots of little mistakes (two gifts for her, footer text is a bit corrupted and there are 65 xhtml errors which aren't all down to zen cart, the site looks like it needs a fresh lick of paint in my opinion also.
Good luck
fisicx
13th February 2009, 07:54
I agree. Content comes first everytime. The google SEO starter guide and the google guidelines all emphasise the need for qwuality content and only very briefly mention inbound links. If the site is good people will link to you.
iamlijo
13th February 2009, 08:14
The best thing is
1. analyse your competetor and find out from where that site is linked from
2. Write quality article and submit to article directories like ezinearticles
3. Submit your site to relevent category in web directories
regards
Lijo George
fisicx
13th February 2009, 09:42
The best thing is
1. analyse your competetor and find out from where that site is linked from
2. Write quality article and submit to article directories like ezinearticles
3. Submit your site to relevent category in web directories
regards
Lijo George
Hmm. I wouldn't call these quality links. Web directories are by and large a spent force, only a very few actually pass any link juice. Article sites are no more than self-promotion so again the links don't carry much weight. Analysing competitors only has a limited value as you don't know which links Google uses and which it ignores. In any case if all you are doing is copying what your competitors do how is that going help?
iamlijo
13th February 2009, 10:21
That idea is good . But it will take much long time . And usually a new company cant afford that long time delay.
I agree. Content comes first everytime. The google SEO starter guide and the google guidelines all emphasise the need for qwuality content and only very briefly mention inbound links. If the site is good people will link to you.
iamlijo
13th February 2009, 10:27
You agreed a very few pass link juice . So the better is find such kind of directories . Check in which all directories your competitor is listed.
And competetor analysis is the best method of SEO in my experience .
"Analysing competitors only has a limited value as you don't know which links Google uses and which it ignores"
No one can say that . But you can be get so many factors of ranking by analyzing your competitors , find what they have and from there what all we dont have . And try to develop what we don't have .
Its considerded as one of the best methods.
Best of luck
regards
Hmm. I wouldn't call these quality links. Web directories are by and large a spent force, only a very few actually pass any link juice. Article sites are no more than self-promotion so again the links don't carry much weight. Analysing competitors only has a limited value as you don't know which links Google uses and which it ignores. In any case if all you are doing is copying what your competitors do how is that going help?
crossdaz
13th February 2009, 21:31
Its considerded as one of the best methods.
By who?
As the other poster said, copying your competitor is hardly original and you have no idea what weight each link carries anyway.
You could spend a week building links from sites that pass no page rank and miss the one actual link that has any use?
crossdaz
13th February 2009, 21:40
Dear All,
I have a UK gifts and Perfumes shop
giftoffer co uk
I would like to know how to get similar links and imporve google rating.
Thanks for reading !
I'd concentrate on having more text on your pages. It can be tedious writing product descriptions but it can make a big difference.
If it's a problem then consider paying someone to write some descriptions for you and try to get some user comments or reviews?
To get other sites to link to you is another battle but if you get the above points right then it becomes easier.
Do you have some knowledge or experience that you can offer to a related site in return for a link?
Even amazon depends to a great extent on content from third parties, whether it's product descriptions or buyer reviews. Don't be shy - ask for content and offer it.
thebookiesoffers
14th February 2009, 09:27
why are people dismissing checking competitors? check 5 of them and get all the same links they have. most probably they will have different links so in theory you have the potential to get 5 times the links as your rivals. obviously this isn't a exact science but it is a good base to start your link building
crossdaz
14th February 2009, 10:30
why are people dismissing checking competitors?
I wouldn't dismiss it but I also wouldn't spend too much time trying to replicate them. As I said, you have no way of knowing what value those links have.
thebookiesoffers
14th February 2009, 15:26
you have no way of telling the value of any link then. i'm sorry but to me your arguement just doesn't stand up. Get all the same links as everyone else then build your own, stands that you'll be in a better position
crossdaz
14th February 2009, 15:39
you have no way of telling the value of any link then. i'm sorry but to me your arguement just doesn't stand up. Get all the same links as everyone else then build your own, stands that you'll be in a better position
Well yes, if you want to do that then fine? But if your main competitor has 1000 links then only a hand full of these could be having any significant benefit.
Plus you can only see what yahoo is showing you - compare your link profile on yahoo with google webmaster tools and you'll often see 2 completely different profiles?
PrettyPaws
14th February 2009, 17:57
To all the people who've dismissed the posts trying to be helpful but not actually answering the question - How do you find quality links?
It's all well and good slating other people's opinions but if you're not going to be of any help to the OP what's the point?
crossdaz
14th February 2009, 18:31
To all the people who've dismissed the posts trying to be helpful but not actually answering the question - How do you find quality links?
It's all well and good slating other people's opinions but if you're not going to be of any help to the OP what's the point?
I've offered my advice (look and you'll see it) and am now discussing a fine point which has cropped up with another member.
I'm certainly not slating his opinion, just explaining my thinking.
Where's your advice to the original poster then?
Stampy
14th February 2009, 19:33
I'm sure this tool has been posted on here before, but I've found it useful for finding relevant blogs to post on. On a couple of the blogs I've even had articles published, linking back to one of my sites.
I know people will debate whether blog and forum posting helps link wise, but all I can say is that it works for me!
Anyway, here's the tool: http://www.fastblogfinder.com (http://www.fastblogfinder.com/)
crossdaz
14th February 2009, 21:20
I know people will debate whether blog and forum posting helps link wise, but all I can say is that it works for me!
Yes, posting on some blogs can be beneficial, especially if the links aren't automatically set to "nofollow"
I've found a few decent blogs with follow links and I always try to make my comments relevant and useful. The problem is that there are so many lazy b******s who just spam them to death. :(
PrettyPaws
15th February 2009, 19:42
Where's your advice to the original poster then?
Running give aways with popular blogs/sites is a great way to do it. We've got many one way links from quality, related sites for as little as just £3. If you offered a popular blog £3 for a link they'd tell you where to go but offer them a prize worth £3 (wholesale price remember) and they love it. ;)
fisicx
16th February 2009, 08:17
A quality link is one that endorses or cites your site. It is the blog post that uses you as a reference or the article about the best place to get a certain item or the reccomendation in a review site.
All of these are quality links. If you want them you need to earn them. And that means building a really good site that people visit, buy from and return to. Do this and then market your site as PP suggests to RELEVANT websites.
scene4u
16th February 2009, 19:24
A good place to start is by submitting your site to the social bookmarking sites including Digg, Technorati, Stumble Upon and others. A good way of finding other sites in your field trusted by Google is by typing the terms into Google and your competition or potential link partners will be right in front of you.