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gglaze
28th February 2005, 01:06
Hi, I recently set up a new company, for which I am currently the director and the full shareholder. The company's business is IT consulting to financial institutions. Currently I am the only employee, but this may change in the near future, as I am planning to bring on more consultants.

I am from the U.S. and will need to get a new work permit in order to work for this company - I'm currently here in the U.K. under a permit for a previous job. I've received some legal advice, and apparently this is going to be difficult, because there is simply no way for me to apply for a work permit working for my own company. So now I am looking at various methods for resolving this issue.

First of all, I've been proposed various options such as switching from contracting to working directly as a perm employee for the bank I'm at - or working for an umbrella company. I'd like to scratch both of these options off immediately, as I am absolutely determined to find a way to own and work for my own company.

Given that premise, one possibility could be for me to transfer all ownership and directorship of the company to someone I trust - and I actually have just the right person in mind. I would immediately have that person sign a power of attorney as well as a blank transfer of shares, leaving the option open for me to transfer the company back to myself at any point. Once the work permit application is processed and the permit has been acquired, it seems like I should then be able to transfer the company back to myself right away. Thus, it seems like the company would be out of my hands for maybe around a month.

Another option could be to follow similar logic as above, but to use a nominee director/shareholder/secretary. This is more costly, but potentially done in a cleaner way, since presumably the formation company handling everything knows what they are doing better than I do.

I'm curious to see if anyone here has dealt with any similar issues, and if so, what advice you might have for me. Additionally, I'm looking for any advice anyone could give me regarding the options I've proposed - would a nominee registration be acceptable, or does it really need to be a real person, in order to have the best chances with the work permit application?

I'm a relative newbie at all of this, so I would also appreciate any advice anyone could give me about what forms will need to be submitted, and what process I'll need to go through to get everything transferred over properly. Am I best off paying a company to handle all of this for me, or is it easy enough that I could do it myself?

Do I need to transfer everything, i.e. notify Inland Revenue, VAT and excise, my bank, and all other agencies? Or does simply notifying company's house suffice? I'm curious about what the home office will actually be interested in looking at to verify the authenticity of the "director" of the company that is offering me work.

Thanks for all your help!

Alpha
28th February 2005, 12:21
Just out of curiosity I looked up the requirements for a business visa. They are as follows

You are required to invest £200,000 in the United Kingdom. The greater the investment is than the minimum £200,000 the authorities could be less rigorous with the other requirements of the rules and the application may be processed more rapidly.

No wonder Roman Abramovich had no problems getting into the country!!!

Basically you can buy your way in if you have £200k. The more you have the bigger the formality.

So if you have a spare £200k and can employ a couple of people then you and your company have no problems!!!

gglaze
28th February 2005, 12:24
Ouch! May I ask where you read about that?

Haven't heard anything about that yet, but it sounds like it could be a problem!

Alpha
28th February 2005, 12:39
Dont worry that is just a different way of getting in to the country!

According to website that I looked at this is the way you can get into the country by owning your own company and therfore being employed in it which appears to be your current problem does it not




www.immigrationexpert.com/

gglaze
28th February 2005, 13:38
Ah, ok I got it. Wow, it's amazing that you can buy your way in like that. But yeah, unfortunately I'm not quite at that level yet.

I believe the type of Visa I've always previously had has been a skilled worker visa, which seems like it should be easy for me to qualify for, given that I have a high level of education and a fairly long history of specialized experience.

I've just been told by yet another accounting expert that it seems doubtful that this process is going to get me cleared for a work permit, but they didn't give me any useful explanation. I still don't get it - I can't understand why working for a company that used to be mine would be any more difficult than working for a company that was never mine in the first place (even assuming the Home Office would dig that deep into the history of the company to check on someone who has already worked for 3 years on valid work permits in the U.K.)... if anyone could provide any insight into why this seems so dubious, it would be very helpful.

Thanks!

Alpha
28th February 2005, 14:05
Unfortunately a simple fact of life... money talks and corrupts...just wish we could all talk loud :)

Does it not say on the website that you can apply for permanent residency after 4 years!!

If this is the case would it not be better to sit tight for the final year and carry on regardless (Or is that where you came in) ?

gglaze
28th February 2005, 14:12
I would absolutely love to be able to just sit in on my current permit and wait another year - but from what I understand, my previous permits are no longer technically valid for the work I'm doing, since I'm no longer working for those companies. So even if I can get away with continuing to work on an invalid permit for another year, I guess I'm a bit nervous about what would happen at the end of that last year when I am actually ready to apply for the permanent visa - i.e. will they need to go back and verify all of the older stuff, and if so, is there a chance they could find a mismatch between my paychecks and my visa durations, or something like that?

Alpha
28th February 2005, 14:22
As many thousands of other have got away with it in the past I don't see why you should not give it a try.

Of course there are always Inland Revenue records for them to check.

I think you need to seek professional advice regarding these possibilities rather than trying to engineer your company around the situation.

Having said that I've always said that If I ever did anything that other people have got away with I would be THE ONE that got caught.

woopi
20th April 2005, 22:08
Mate, you need to attend Full-time education of some kind. You will get a VISA to be educated, and the cheapest cookery courses at your local higher education college are about £250/term.

Once you've been attending cookery for 7 years, you have a permit to stay here permentantly. No-one says you are not allowed to run a business in the meantime. I don't even think you have to turn up to classes every day! (But most days would be advisable..)

Or rather than cooking, why not do something on the subject along business management or accounting or the subject of your business?

Best regards,
W

gglaze
21st April 2005, 02:03
As a follow up to this, great news - I applied for an HSMP work visa, and the application just got accepted! Somehow I was actually able to get everything taken care of in under 2 months. Thanks everyone for all the advice and support during this process. Fyi, here's a quick advert: globalvisas.com does some excellent work - highly reccomended!

Alpha
21st April 2005, 09:34
Congratulations and good to see it was quick and painless.


Hope you will now be able to contribute to our friendly forum

woopi
23rd April 2005, 11:18
Good to hear it's all sorted.

safetymedia
13th May 2008, 12:54
OKay, first things first. a work permit is for working for a company and not setting up a business. So you gonna have to leave that approach.
Second, £200k investment is for Business(investor) Visa. There is also a second category which is for Innonvators. Basically you have to show an innovative business plan that'll benefit UK economy and create jobs.

Apart from these routes there is HSMP which is now Tier 2 Visa. It allows you to gain entry on points basis, I am sure you have enough points if you are looking to set up an IT consultancy. With Tier 2 you can take on any legal employment or business.

Also, most popular choice amongst foreign workers is SOLE Rep of a company based abroad. SO , you come in UK as a representative of the company.Problem is you gotta make it look that the company wasn't formed solely for the purpose of your visa entry.