View Full Version : Banks requiring verification of co. formation from Equifax rather than Comp House?
the white rose
18th December 2008, 09:08
Hi, I'm having a bit of a problem here. I've opened a business bank account with Yorkshire Bank and they're saying they can't find verification of my company's existence online. They're using Equifax. Companies House have confirmed that my company's details are online through them but Yorkshire Bank are telling me that unless the details are on Equifax it's not good enough for them. What is going on, does anyone know? Is this standard procedure?
Advance notice to forum-addict sneerers and cynics - please post elsewhere, I'm very busy and just want straight answers to the question.
Zeno
18th December 2008, 09:23
When was the company incorporated? It could be that Equifax has not been updated yet?
Gillie
18th December 2008, 09:30
Has the bank asked for a copy of your cert of incorporation?
Simon-M
18th December 2008, 09:33
What is the company name?
Just checked on Companies House Website and I get this:
FLEUR DE LYS PUBLISHING LIMITED
PO BOX 4440
ATHOL ROAD
SHEFFIELD 8
SOUTH YORKSHIRE
S8 2FW
Company No. 06682684
the white rose
18th December 2008, 09:41
What is the company name?
Just checked on Companies House Website and I get this:
FLEUR DE LYS PUBLISHING LIMITED
PO BOX 4440
ATHOL ROAD
SHEFFIELD 8
SOUTH YORKSHIRE
S8 2FW
Company No. 06682684
Yeah that's the one, Simon. To make it clearer - the bank has seen the copy of the cerificate of incorporation and the company was formed end of August.
Gillie
18th December 2008, 10:01
You would only expect the bank to do a credit check, ie that is what they use Equifax for, if you were moving accounts rather than opening a new one.
Most banks merely want to see cert of incorporation and evidence of which directors hold what shareholding via articles of association or a letter from your Accountant.
I can point you in the direction of a very good Business Banking Manager, but aint Yorkshire Bank, who will open an account for you if you are having problems ...
the white rose
18th December 2008, 10:12
Most banks merely want to see cert of incorporation and evidence of which directors hold what shareholding via articles of association or a letter from your Accountant.
They have a letter from my book keeper and are saying it is no good, it has to come from a firm of accountants. But I'm not in the position of needing an accountant yet...
I can point you in the direction of a very good Business Banking Manager, but aint Yorkshire Bank, who will open an account for you if you are having problems ...
Thanks. I'll bear that in mind. I'm going to see which way this goes when the bank get back to me.
MikeH
18th December 2008, 12:35
This is a common practice by some banks, and often just out of date practices by the bank managers. The credit agencies update the info weekly in many cases. Tell your bank to go to CH directly or tell them to go to hell :) There are lots of banks that know how to check who the company's directors are and that will give you free banking.
gploosley
18th December 2008, 16:51
We're having the same issue with another bank. Equifax is out of synch with Companies House and showing out of date information. I purchased the Companies House report and mailed it to the bank, they're looking into it.
Simon-M
18th December 2008, 17:16
All you have to do is tell the bank to go online and look for themselves. It's free and as long as they have internet they can do as many searches as they like.
http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/
Simon
MikeH
19th December 2008, 09:35
All you have to do is tell the bank to go online and look for themselves. It's free and as long as they have internet they can do as many searches as they like.
http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/
Simon
They will need a subscription service to access full details or they can pay as they go for data.
OldWelshGuy
19th December 2008, 09:48
It isn't that fault of the manager, it is procedural. They have to tick the bock that says satisfactory credit report reviewed, and as Equifax have no information, they are unable to do that.
Unfortunately it is a phone call with a straight answer "is there any way around this situation?" If they say no, then THAT is your answer, go elsewhere, and make it clear to them the situation.
MikeH
19th December 2008, 12:37
Unfortunatley we hear about this too often. One branch opens an account in a couple of days whilst others do not. One branch will rely solely on a credit agency whilst another branch will check CH. Some branch managers/business managers do not even know where to find shareholder details for brand new companies.
billie1
19th December 2008, 17:02
Why don't you try Alliance and Leicester or Abbey National. I doubt they would require so much unnecessary information.
Gillie
19th December 2008, 17:24
All banks seem to go through this procedure.
If you don't have an Accountant yet how about forking out a little money and getting some articles of memorandum drawn up that state who holds what shareholding.
For instance when I set up a new account a few months ago for the new ltd company, I opened the account over the phone (as I already had one other business account with this bank) and they merely requested a copy of the articles and cert of incorporation and a signature on a form and it took literally three days to get bank account number and cheque books and so forth. I was informed that if I didnt have articles that I could get my Accountant to write a set letter stating the shareholding structure, and we literally organised such for a new client earlier this week as well.
ready2mix
22nd March 2011, 20:09
i use Barclays clearly business to check credit stauts of customers, i also have both my companies on there, one is dormant the other is active owes no debt no overdraft and yet it went down 20 points and my dormant company went up 25 and not even trading, make sense of that, i cant - nothing hidden no late payments nothing.
Best thing to do is try another bank...!
johndon68
22nd March 2011, 21:30
Best thing to do is try another bank...!
I guess they may already have done so as the last post in this thread prior to your's is over 2 years old :D
John
consultant
23rd March 2011, 06:13
They need you more than you need them.
Find another bank!
Jaydee
23rd March 2011, 12:40
I had thought Zeno was back ... until I noticed the age of the thread
ready2mix
29th March 2011, 19:35
The thread it lives...!!!!!