True?

[Communications_Guy]

Is it true that for home based businesses the governement are funding for installation of fibre optic broadband?

[SLF]

nope! not true.

[KidsBeeHappy]

There are hundreds of businesses in Scotland that have the most basic 512 connection. And many private and business addresses that simply can't get ANY broadband at all, because BT only put in facilities for something silly like 12 lines in the exchanges in question.

I think there is a long way to go with basic broadband provision before the GVT should worry about funding fibre optic BB for businesses.

[SLF]

Perhaps confusing this with a previous announcement that the Gov is gonna make sure there is internet in all low income households by 20whatever. ie the other 30 ish %

[Subbynet]

There are hundreds of businesses in Scotland that have the most basic 512 connection. And many private and business addresses that simply can't get ANY broadband at all, because BT only put in facilities for something silly like 12 lines in the exchanges in question.

I think there is a long way to go with basic broadband provision before the GVT should worry about funding fibre optic BB for businesses.

I think you have that the wrong way around, its not cost effective to build an exchange for 12 lines. In places houses are far apart, and when ADSL has a performance limit on the distance from the exchange, this distance is a major problem, so is the geographic layout of Scotland itself.

People blame BT, but you could also say if BB is important to your business, then move to where BB is available. BT say only 4% of the nation as a whole are unable to receive BB. (That number was taken from a news report dated Apr 2005 titled - Scotland to get blanket broadband coverage)

BT is a private company, and has to work on a cost vs. profit basis, so if you want to see BB provision in Scotland increase, then you must support government plans for investment, because unless a wireless technology really takes off in the next few years (and tbh I don't think it will to cover Scotland), these houses and businesses will never get BB.

Btw, today Fibre is the only way to go and pretty much future proof.

[KidsBeeHappy]

I think you have that the wrong way around, its not cost effective to build an exchange for 12 lines. In places houses are far apart, and when ADSL has a performance limit on the distance from the exchange, this distance is a major problem, so is the geographic layout of Scotland itself.

People blame BT, but you could also say if BB is important to your business, then move to where BB is available. BT say only 4% of the nation as a whole are unable to receive BB. (That number was taken from a news report dated Apr 2005 titled - Scotland to get blanket broadband coverage)

BT is a private company, and has to work on a cost vs. profit basis, so if you want to see BB provision in Scotland increase, then you must support government plans for investment, because unless a wireless technology really takes off in the next few years (and tbh I don't think it will to cover Scotland), these houses and businesses will never get BB.

Btw, today Fibre is the only way to go and pretty much future proof.


OK.

There are a large number of villages all over the Scotland (presumably all UK, but i only know about scotland), where it was not cost effective for BT to upgrade for broadband.

The Scottish Executive did a deal with BT, and ALL exchanges in Scotland, even the smallest got a degree of broadband enablement, but the service enabled was the absolute minimum, and the availablity through the exchange was minimal.

[Subbynet]

OK.

There are a large number of villages all over the Scotland (presumably all UK, but i only know about scotland), where it was not cost effective for BT to upgrade for broadband.

The Scottish Executive did a deal with BT, and ALL exchanges in Scotland, even the smallest got a degree of broadband enablement, but the service enabled was the absolute minimum, and the availablity through the exchange was minimal.

Just 4% of the UK in 2005 according to BT's figures, but sure in a nation of 60m thats still quite a few people.

The problem isn't that BT (or the Scottish Gov) gave you the minimum, its that the technology can only deliver that amount of service to you. They physically can't give any more from it, as otherwise I'm sure they'd be very happy to sell it to you.

The next logical step in increasing BB speed is by using Fibre. I understand Dundee is the testing ground in Scotland for the deployment, and no doubt those people who have poor connections now in remote areas will have to wait the longest, for the simple reasons you can lay Fibre in old sewers in Towns and Cities, but digging miles to lay cable to reach 1 or 2 houses still won't be worth it without government backing, so the Scot Gov is going to have to pay BT again someday soon.

[Communications_Guy]

Ohh it's just that a business partner of mine claims that he is currently waiting to have fibre optic broadband installed ....

now it sounds all very starnge that I know it couldn't be true.. wonder why he would feel the need to lie

[Subbynet]

Ohh it's just that a business partner of mine claims that he is currently waiting to have fibre optic broadband installed ....

now it sounds all very starnge that I know it couldn't be true.. wonder why he would feel the need to lie

Just ask straight up where you can enquire yourself about it. Sometimes you can get investment and grants for these things, and sometimes they apply only in certain circumstances for a range of reasons, but who knows, maybe he received a grant.

[SLF]

There has been certain funding to get that sort of stuff for businesses only, but not all of the country.