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northeast
19th September 2008, 12:21
Hi
I am looking for advice for my sister who runs a limited company which has serious cashflow problems.

The company has been owed £6000 since March of this year (terms 30 days) by a customer. Around 10 weeks ago, after many telephone conversations in which they promised to pay up, they faxed my sister claiming they had wrongly overpaid HMRC and would need another six weeks until that was sorted before making payment.
After the six weeks was up, they claimed HMRC would not give a refund but would deduct it from their next bill.
They said they didn't know when they might be able to pay so I suggested she threaten them that she would petition for bankruptcy. After being unable to speak to anyone in days, this resulted in them calling her back and asking if they could pay by weekly instalments. She agreed.
The first payment was due last week but needless to say, it didn't arrive. This week they claimed it was an oversight and they will send a double payment by today - it hasn't yet arrived.
I assume they have their own cashflow problems and my sister is way down their list of priorities. However, she owes this money to HMRC and I've told her she needs to sort this out. Why should she be so stressed about inability to pay HMRC when this customer owes her that amount!!
Apparently, they were subcontracting the work from one of their own clients and I suggested she contact the firm which originally commissioned the work to report that their sub contractor is not paying up.
I now think she either needs to take county court action (not just threaten it) or take some steps to suggest she is seeking bankruptcy order on them. If they are able to raise the money, this should make them pay up.
I also think that she needs to tell them the instalment option has now been withdrawn because they did not make the payment when promised.
Is £6k covered by county court or is the amount too high? would she be better proceedings with the bankruptcy threat? What she doesn't want is to have to send in bailiffs to take goods that she'd then have to try to sell before she can settle her outstanding HMRC account.
Any suggestions/advice would be much appreciated.
with thanks

i.m.
19th September 2008, 13:06
Can your sister get them to agree that they are undisputed debts? I would be tempted then to issue a stat demand but it is perfectly possible that the receipt of the demand will push them over the edge and they will then file for some kind of insolvency protection (administration). But you need clarity and finality so you know what you are dealing with.

Best

im

snipe12
19th September 2008, 13:33
Your sister needs to act now, as in today.
If they are in financial ruin then she needs to get what she can and get in before others do. If they are just playing hard ball then they need to be stopped.

The company has had enough time to pay and enough opportunity.

I have PM'd you a guy to speak to who can credit check them which could give some answers and then move on the debt for very sensible money.

Sandra Vee
19th September 2008, 13:40
Hello

I can creditcheck them for free for you and then offer you a low cost service to get your debt back.

I will PM now

Sandra Vee :)

northeast
19th September 2008, 18:30
Hi Sandra

thanks for your private message. unfortunately, when I tried to reply, the system says you've chosen not to receive - or cannot receive private messages.

Thanks again

northeast
19th September 2008, 18:31
Quick update on the problem - company insists that it posted a cheque for the first of 3 instalments yesterday and that it should arrive tomorrow. Of course, the moon is made of blue cheese too !

David Griffiths
20th September 2008, 00:16
Quick update on the problem - company insists that it posted a cheque for the first of 3 instalments yesterday and that it should arrive tomorrow. Of course, the moon is made of blue cheese too !

And I always thought that it was green cheese! :(

Richie01
20th September 2008, 12:51
I would never have left it this long, she should have instructed proceedings after 60 days.

PI Guy
20th September 2008, 12:57
have a process server serve a statutory demand on them personally.

This will demonstrate that you mean business and they will have 21 days to pay or u can instigate bankruptcy against them.

maxine
20th September 2008, 15:16
another vote for stat demand. The amount is worth it and given the history you should go in quite hard now

An alternative would be to go for CCJ and then enforce by a 3rd party debt order so that as soon as the HMRC refund is made to the debtor the funds will be paid to your sister. That would depend on whether HMRC are going to refund or apply the credit to their next bill which is what you have said. That would require your debtor to get onto HMRC and insist on a refund rather than offset against next bill.

Richie01
20th September 2008, 15:35
have a process server serve a statutory demand on them personally.

This will demonstrate that you mean business and they will have 21 days to pay or u can instigate bankruptcy against them.

Hi

how much does this generally cost for the statutory demand?

Richie01
26th September 2008, 12:04
anyone know at all?

PI Guy
26th September 2008, 12:12
anyone know at all?sorry i didn't see this thread until today. I have pm'd you with my prices.