A little miss chuffed to say the least.

[pursepartyscotland]

I received this PM? I can only assume the chap is either barking or completely nit picky

Only paid members are allowed to put links (in their signatures).

Links in posts, unless relevant i.e. not an attempt to link to your own website for advertising purposes, are also not allowed.

As it takes time to edit posts, putting links in your posts often results in the removal of the posts;):D

Righto. I saw links in other peoples posts also people regularly share weblinks with each other. So what you are saying is this is a paid for service, posting on this forum? The only stipulation it said was that you had to post 15 times,then links to your or other sites could be visibly shown.

Coming back now and telling me this is late, you should stipulate this on sign up? I only put the company i work on behalf ofs website in the body of my text?

Just a thought.


Rachael

[Jenni@FarrantFrost]

Sorry, Rachael, he's right, tis the rules.

[Dawg]

I can only assume the chap is either barking or completely nit picky

You are quite right. All the mods are barking, are members of MI6, work with the crocodile nazi, the Duke of Edinburgh, personally know French speaking members of the CIA and Mossad and have it in for all Pursey people globally.

But I, Dawg el Fayed, is on your side.

[Alpha]

I received this PM? I can only assume the chap is either barking or completely nit picky



Just a thought.


Rachael

Obviously thought was actually the last thing on your mind.......if you had sufficient brain cells for thought you might like to look at my profile as you really wanted to know what my position on the forums is (You missed that bit out of your posting so ill post it in full).

Originally Posted by Alpha
Only paid members are allowed to put links (in their signatures).

Links in posts, unless relevant i.e. not an attempt to link to your own website for advertising purposes, are also not allowed.

As it takes time to edit posts, putting links in your posts often results in the removal of the posts
Righto i saw links in other peoples posts also people regualrly share weblinks with each other. So in effect this is a paid for service? The only stipulation it said was that you had to post 15 timesthen links to your or other sites could be visibly shown.

Coming back now and telling me this is late, you should stipulate this on sign up?

Just a thought.

Also what is your position in the business forum?

Rachael

[ken_uk]

They were supposed to be redoing the rules, no sign of anything yet, guess they are still working on it, or forgot..

Until then, the rules are not really clear, and are sometimes made up on the spot, without being written online anywhere as a official rule.

When the new rules come out, hopefully that will stop, and everyone will know the rules properly.

[estwig]

Did someone say something???

Alpha who??
;)

[RayB]

I received this PM? I can only assume the chap is either barking or completely nit picky

Nah - the Mods aint barking. Some of us members are. But not the Mods :D

[Alpha]

Until then, the rules are not really clear, and are sometimes made up on the spot, without being written online anywhere as a official rule.



Actually no rules are made up on the spot, there have been a number of rules which have been in place informally for years.Sift however, as has been said many times before, are in the process of putting a formalised set of rules in place.

They are taking the time and the care to try to ensure that as many eventualities as possible are covered and are legally correct.

[creacom]

They were supposed to be redoing the rules, no sign of anything yet, guess they are still working on it, or forgot..

When the new rules come out, hopefully that will stop, and everyone will know the rules properly.

In my experience it doesn't matter if its written or not. People will do what they want to do.

Having the new rule list will allow the rule abiding people to look at it and see what they already follow but it will also allow the others to look at it and see what they can break or bend.

As Alpha said, no rules are made up on the spot. Issues are discussed between mods and then action is taken where necessary if there is not already a rule about it.

[ken_uk]

Actually no rules are made up on the spot, there have been a number of rules which have been in place informally for years.

Thats not actually true though Alpha, as can be proved by at least one post where it is admitted that a rule was implemented based on the feeling of a person in charge, which may or may not be sifts opinion. Just what the person ruled at the time. - made up on the spot really, not a proper informal ruling that had been in place for years really?

You could probably find more examples if you searched long enough, but I recall that one quite well.

[creacom]

Thats not actually true though Alpha, as can be proved by at least one post where it is admitted that a rule was implemented based on the feeling of a person in charge, which may or may not be sifts opinion. Just what the person ruled at the time. - made up on the spot really, not a proper informal ruling that had been in place for years really?

You could probably find more examples if you searched long enough, but I recall that one quite well.

Which post would that be ?

Jacqui

[ken_uk]

Its one of the threads that actually led to the call to get some proper rules in place, so it ended well ;)

http://www.ukbusinessforums.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=48612

[Alpha]

Thats not actually true though Alpha, as can be proved by at least one post where it is admitted that a rule was implemented based on the feeling of a person in charge, which may or may not be sifts opinion. Just what the person ruled at the time. - made up on the spot really, not a proper informal ruling that had been in place for years really?

You could probably find more examples if you searched long enough, but I recall that one quite well.

And did Sift order that the 'feeling' should be reversed?

Sometimes when there is only one moderator and the requirement for action is considered urgent it has to be dealt with based upon the experience of the moderator. That experience has been gained by dealing with many other situations over the years (Very similar to any decision making criteria in any company you may care to mention).

That doesn't mean that it is entirely made up but is based upon previous situations.

And as a footnote, i can actually count on my fingers and thumbs (to be correct) the number of people who complain about the lack of rules which considering that there are around 6509 active members means that there is a very small minority who see to make it their mission in life to complain at evry opportunity, usually about something that doesn't actually involve them, whilst the rest of us just get on with life and business:eek:

[pursepartyscotland]

Obviously thought was actually the last thing on your mind.......if you had sufficient brain cells for thought you might like to look at my profile as you really wanted to know what my position on the forums is (You missed that bit out of your posting so ill post it in full).


You are a lovely person. If i wanted to excercise my braincells i would not choose you as you (by your response) are clearly not worthy of it. I hope everyone realises that in business with yourself they are dealing with a 5 year old.

You are a great advert.

[creacom]

Whatever the rules, situations will arise when the rules will not cover it. That is the moment when we have to decide what is the best course of action.

If there is time and other mods on the forum then we discuss the issue. If not, then rather than leave something to linger or deteriorate we make a decision and decide to take action or not.

Having the new rules will be a big help in certain situations but where there are rules there are people who dont follow them and people who bend them and complain about them.

I will ask someone from Sift to come on here and give is an update on the timescale of the new rules.

Jacqui

[pursepartyscotland]

Rules are a good thing, but equally the administration of said rules can also work against a forum such as this. Why don't people just go to a forum that does not try to extract money from them at every turn?

[estwig]

Please do not feed the troll!!!
:)

[Jenni@FarrantFrost]

Purse party, I think you're shooting yourself in the foot here, in the nicest way. Your response to Alpha didn't rank highly in the maturity stakes either.

This forum is a great resource and there are some wonderful folks on here with tip top advice. Forums aren't free to run and some folk are happy to contibute a nominal sum to get more out of the forums and to help the community stay alive.

The rules aren't clear to new users, I agree, but they are being worked on and that's the best we can hope with for now, and the forum runs pretty smoothly nevertheless :D

[ken_uk]

You think the admins in this forum would know the rules, like the one about not posting abusive stuff... At least the last message from the person was deleted, but I agree, its looking bad when those in charge start name calling. Leading by example and all that...

[UKSMF]

I am making some nice cocktails here anyone fancy one?

Regards

Dave

[UKSMF]

Calming cocktails and the bar is called FRUStr8ion

Dave

[pursepartyscotland]

APLHA: http://www.ukbusinessforums.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=13485

It regards moderators and defamation. As you have defamed me personally and my business what is the address of "UKbusiness forums" as as you are "apparently" part of the management.

To me you are just a bully boy, I will like to see how that feels when my claim of damage to earnings and personal agravation goes through.

[Hayles]

You are a lovely person. If i wanted to excercise my braincells i would not choose you as you (by your response) are clearly not worthy of it. I hope everyone realises that in business with yourself they are dealing with a 5 year old.

You are a great advert.


Well my dear, there are many, many of us dealing with young Mr Alpha... not seen any complaints before :)

He is very unusual in that he is a bean counter with a sense of humour, that's all. You're not going to win any favours/friends by slating him I'm afraid....

H

[pursepartyscotland]

You think the admins in this forum would know the rules, like the one about not posting abusive stuff... At least the last message from the person was deleted, but I agree, its looking bad when those in charge start name calling. Leading by example and all that...


Not only that he has defamed a business and the earning potential of that. He is a silly person. I was pointing out the imaturity of his remarks regarding stupid.

Too think he runs things about here!

[ken_uk]

I think his reply that has now been deleted "and you are a very poor one" spoke for itself, people can make up their own minds....

[pursepartyscotland]

Well my dear, there are many, many of us dealing with young Mr Alpha... not seen any complaints before :)

He is very unusual in that he is a bean counter with a sense of humour, that's all. You're not going to win any favours/friends by slating him I'm afraid....

H

He should not start by defaming people as stupid. I was pointing out he is a silly and imature man for such remarks.

Good for him. He has a fan club!

[creacom]

APLHA: http://www.ukbusinessforums.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=13485

To me you are just a bully boy, I will like to see how that feels when my claim of damage to earnings and personal agravation goes through.

I deleted some of your posts.

Getting silly now. You are annoyed because you were pulled up for something. To be fair you did start by calling him either barking or nit picky. He is neither. He just told you not to do something that is against forum policy.

Jacqui

[pursepartyscotland]

Now he has realised i am going to litigate against him.

it is ok I have the screen grabs.

See you in court mr Alpha.

[pursepartyscotland]

No I am furious because he made a rather personal and abussive slur.

I am glad your company accepts these actions as fine. The real world would not.

See you their!

[creacom]

No I am furious because he made a rather personal and abussive slur.

I am glad your company accepts these actions as fine. The real world would not.

See you their!

"barking or nit picky"

Since we both live in Scotland will you be able to give me a lift to this court case ?? Save us both some money. We can share the petrol and I will buy the tea.

[pursepartyscotland]

I point out the process is nit picky and pedantic the company that runs this comes back with I AM STUPID and thus my ability to run a business.

I am glad your members are accepting of abuse arbitrarily issued from your esteemed collective brains.

I personally am not.

[pursepartyscotland]

"barking or nit picky"

Since we both live in Scotland will you be able to give me a lift to this court case ?? Save us both some money. We can share the petrol and I will buy the tea.


You can get your usual bus?

[pursepartyscotland]

"barking or nit picky"

Since we both live in Scotland will you be able to give me a lift to this court case ?? Save us both some money. We can share the petrol and I will buy the tea.


"Both Moderators and Admins can be liable if it can be proved on the facts that they both, or either have control of the site content."


from your own website

save some pennies for your bus back.

[creacom]

You can get your usual bus?

Ill check the timetables.

[Paula Barrett]

Darren and I are working on the rules but it is not something that can be done overnight. But we definitely have not forgotten and it is at the top of our list at the moment so please be a little patient with us!

The moderators work very hard to make the forum a nice place to live in (as many of you do...;)) and I would hope that we can all respect the decisions that they make. Remember it's their job to make decisions and of course the rules cannot always cover everything, as unique situations will come up all the time.

As a side, posting up personal messages is not a good idea, if you have a specific complaint please contact us using the contact form.

I will accept that it is difficult for new members to understand the rules and making them more clear is something that we need to work on. But joining a new forum it is a good idea to familiarise yourself with who the moderators are and respect their moderation.

Any problems - please send me a message.

Regards,

Auntie Paula

[ken_uk]

I am glad your members are accepting of abuse arbitrarily issued from your esteemed collective brains.

Careful, Im a member, and Im not accepting of any abuse given, I complain loads ;) - I could sue you for that false statement :)

(dont worry, I dont do that sort of thing, not over silly little things anyway)

[Comspec]

I have enjoyed this mini drama during a little cup of coffee.

Thought I'd mention that, cos there seems to be too much of a leaning towards tea on this forum. I'm gonna sue too (though I may have to take it source as well and involve Keith) :)

[openmind]

<GettingComfy>
Grabs a brew and a sticky bun for the latest UKBF bunfight
</GettingComfy>

;)

[alex4orne]

Sorry I missed loads of this while walking the dog

But did somebody say TEA ? I could murder a cup

[Dawg]

A bit like Anne Summers with more humming noise.....

[Fill-Your-Pants]

A bit like Anne Summers with more humming noise.....

Mind you don't go getting sued now :rolleyes:

[INDIZINE]

gosh been away half a day and look what happens! missed the coffee and buns by the look of it.

Sorry im no fan of anyone, but PurseParty you did in fact refer to Alphas as an individual naming him as 'barking or nit picky'. Unfortunately he did not help by making a worse reply from someone I wouldnt expect that sort of reply.

I almost posted about your links earlier, but didnt have time and thought to myself "someone else will be along shortly and say something". So it could have been any of us telling you.

It seems whenever you do raise a forum rule, people dont like it. We are just straight to the point, not rude, just specific about it not being allowed. Then you get a retalliation.

I got PMs the other day from a mmeber for exact same thing with an excuse about not realising a certain thing wasnt allowed. OK fair enough its not made clear, but if someone bothers to bring it to your attention straight away, theres no need to shoot the messenger.

[RayB]

I'm back now, did I miss anything :eek:

[pvcprinting]

Whats Ann Summers

[pvcprinting]

Watch out the protagonist is back in da house

[Gillie]

I saw the title and thought, heck someones pleased with themselves lets go see whats happened etc, to find that their use of the word chuffed is completely different to what it means in this part of the world!

Doing one's research before entering foot in mouth is always well advised ...

[Alpha]

Unfortunately he did not help by making a worse reply from someone I wouldnt expect that sort of reply

This is indeed very true and whilst I admit that I should not have bit I really do not see why I should firstly get a reply to my original polite PM basically asking 'who the hell am I to tell her what the rules are' (My words but that is the impression I got) and then publicly posting part of my PM and publicly claiming that I am barking???.

I may be a moderator but don't forget that we are users too........how would others react? (And yes I know it still doesn't excuse it but!!!):D

[INDIZINE]

oh i dont blame you, I would like to use a few choice words at times, but I have less chance of getting away with it than you :)

[Gillie]

Alan, next you will be saying you are human and breath!!! Come on we all know that you mods are robots really and have nothing better to do than chase after errant members who don't have manners!! ;)

[RayB]

I may be a moderator but don't forget that we are users too........how would others react? (And yes I know it still doesn't excuse it but!!!):D

I'm with you on this one Alan. You may be a mod, but you're a member and a person with feelings too.

Besides - we all know you're NOT barking, well a little bit maybe (kidding) :)

[UKSMF]

Not many customersfor my cocktails lol

Glad to see it has all been sorted

Regards

Dave

[Comspec]

I resent the reference to 'barking' - it may end up in legal action from Dawg !!! :D

[Alpha]

Besides - we all know you're NOT barking, well a little bit maybe (kidding) :)


Actually having thought about it I think you are right the first time. I have to be mad for moderating this forum as long as I have been:eek:

[Alpha]

Just noticed Cathy viewing this thread.......which user are you:| :D

Edited note ...just a private query. Answers on a PM only please!

[Cathy]

Err well I do believe I'm Cathy!

And I was rather hoping I was in time for the cocktails - if so I'll have a Bellini, many thanks!

As far as I'm concerned moderators do a tough job and politely enforcing the rules, whether they're clear or not is prety much what they're supposed to do.

Getting annoyed because they do that, especially when you're new to the forum is rather silly. If you don't like the rules then the web's a big place, no-one forces you to be here.

[Alpha]

Err well I do believe I'm Cathy!



Thats fair enough then:D

[UKSMF]

Bellini coming your way and we also have the house cocktail on special any takers

Sorry I am getting carried away now. I beleive that the Mods here do a great job and that the forum is a great place to be. It is good to see some spice now and again though it makes for great reading.

Regards

Dave

[Cathy]

Thanks for the Bellini, might take you up on the house special next :)....oh drat it's not Friday night is it....it's just been a long week today!

[Markb]

Not only that he has defamed a business and the earning potential of that. He is a silly person. I was pointing out the imaturity of his remarks regarding stupid.

Too think he runs things about here!


Chill out - in a hundred years time none of this will matter anyway.