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Justsme
26th May 2007, 10:56
Hey guys, I've posted quite a few times offering free advertising at my site at http://www.justsme.com. Due to the amount of hits we've been getting worldwide shortly we'll be opening a US version which should be early next week. There has been a few take-ups from the forum which I have to say is great but a lot of you are missing out on potential business by not taking advantage.
If you ever needed any proof of how effective Search Engine Optimisation is and substantiation as to what we say about how quickly we are moving up the search engines and why you should advertise on our site, check out this report (3.66mb) (http://www.justsme.com/JustSME%20Ranking%20Report%2026th%20May.pdf).
This report compares today Saturday the 26th May against the last report we ran last week on Sunday. In less than five days we have:
170 New No.1 Positions!
90 New No.2 Positions!
67 New No.3 Positions!
42 New No.4 Positions!
30 New No.5 Positions!
37 New No.6 Positions!
35 New No.7 Positions!
31 New No.8 Positions!
35 New No.9 Positions!
31 New No.10 Positions!
Thats a total of 568 Brand New Listings on Page 1's alone in the worlds biggest seacrh engines!! and doesn't even include where we have already been in the search engines and have moved up.
If you type "sme directory" in any of the major search engines you will find us pretty much in the first two pages! and the same for "uk sme".
We offer FREE ADVERTISING - WHY AREN'T YOU LISTED????????????????
There is also a Banner Exchange, Affiliate Program, Free Internet Resources and a Job Board Coming Soon!! all 100% FREE!!!!!
VirtualAssistance
26th May 2007, 12:39
Sounds good - but I see one major problem for me. I don't think my potential clients will be searching for "sme directory" or any of the other search phrases you rank highly for.
When I look for a business directory to list my business in, I first to a search for the phrases that my keyword research tells me they are using to find my services.
If any directories are on the first couple of pages of gooogle - then I will list in them.
Justsme
26th May 2007, 12:53
Virtual,
Thats a fair comment. The way Search Engines rank companies is not just based on keywords, external and internal links are just as important as is the structure of your site. The listings on my site contain your full description, title and URL in the meta tags as well as the name of the category e.g:
<title> :: JustSME UK SME Business Directory</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=iso-8859-1" />
<base href="http://www.justsme.com/" />
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="http://www.justsme.com/templates/Almanac_GREEN/css/style.css" />
<link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="Teddy Bears" href="http://www.justsme.com/plugins/rss/feed.php?id=84" />
<meta name="description" content=", http://www.justsme.com, 84, Teddy Bears, FunkyBears, Personalised Teddy Bears as Gifts for all Occasions. Every bear comes in a Free Gift box with its own passport! Free UK delivery with no VAT. Your can choose from a range of exclusive Teddy Bears specially dyed colours and a large selection of hooded tops. FREE Personalised Card with every order, http://www.funkybears.com" />
<meta name="keywords" content=", http://www.justsme.com, Teddy Bears, Personalised Teddy Bears as Gifts for all Occasions. Every bear comes in a Free Gift box with its own passport! Free UK delivery with no VAT. Your can choose from a range of exclusive Teddy Bears specially dyed colours and a large selection of hooded tops. FREE Personalised Card with every order, http://www.funkybears.com" />
When the search engines pick this up it will have a large impact on the rating that they give to your site. Very shortly you will see that the people who do advertise will see their rankings improve.
The more keywords that bring your site up in the search engines the more exposure your business is going to get, how many times have you searched for something and spotted something else of interest that maybe you hadn't thought of looking for or even new existed? I'm not sure what your business is but maybe other people advertising on the site might also be interested in what you do? You'll also notice some very high profile advertisers including Boots, Orange, Virgin, Natwest, American Express, Experian, Lloyds TSB to name a few that feel that advertising with us will benefit their business.
There are also a number of other keywords that I am getting high rankings for and bear in mind this is in only two months, it takes at least 6 months to see the final results, for example I'm No.8 in MSN.com and Live.com for "UK Business Directory".
I'm sorry you don't feel it will benefit your business, however for completely Free I'm not sure how you can lose?
SteveGibson
26th May 2007, 13:08
If you ever needed any proof of how effective Search Engine Optimisation is and substantiation as to what we say about how quickly we are moving up the search engines and why you should advertise on our site, check out this report (3.66mb).
I'm curious about your search engine "success".
Am I right in thinking your report says you only have 6 page 1 rankings on google.com & google.co.uk?
... And that every one of those listings is for a search that includes your own business/website name?
No offense, but I farted last Tuesday and it got me better rankings in google.
Steve
Justsme
26th May 2007, 13:20
I'm curious about your search engine "success".
Am I right in thinking your report says you only have 6 page 1 rankings on google.com & google.co.uk?
... And that every one of those listings is for a search that includes your own business/website name?
No offense, but I farted last Tuesday and it got me better rankings in google.
Steve
Steve,
Thanks for your comments and looking at your website/business I can understand why you would like to rubbish the report.
The purpose of the report is to show how quickly things can change. If you looked closer you might also notice that last Sunday I had NO RANKINGS AT ALL! and after re-optimising for Google I now have 7 listings including "sme business directory" at position 18, and I did that in five days. Don't really think I need to say much more as I know when I run this report again next sunday there will be even more.
I put JustSME.com up to help small business who have limited budgets for advertising to get the best possible results, it's free....
simonr
26th May 2007, 13:32
There's also the slight issue of the possible bug in your submission process: I got a complaint that my description was over 300 characters. My word processors both think it's only 297......
S
Justsme
26th May 2007, 13:40
There's also the slight issue of the possible bug in your submission process: I got a complaint that my description was over 300 characters. My word processors both think it's only 297......
S
Hi Simon,
Your listing is now live, I've checked what you say about the 300 and it seems to be fine, will keep an eye on it or maybe increase the size thanks for your support.
** Simon - I've now increased the description length to 350 characters and triple checked it, you can edit your listing by logging in and editing the listing.
Scott-CopyandDesign
26th May 2007, 13:54
No offense, but I farted last Tuesday and it got me better rankings in google.
Steve
To be fair Steve you couldn't of put that line in a more offensive way if you tried :p
peterjhale
26th May 2007, 13:55
I now have 7 listings including "sme business directory" at position 18, and I did that in five days.
that's because
a) no one has optimised for that phrase
because
b) no one searches for it.
You would get the same report if you were to optimise for the phrase "darcey bucket champion"
Let's hope your SEO company works a bit harder for you (ie: chooses phrases to target that people actually key into the little search box on Google etc)
SteveGibson
26th May 2007, 14:11
To be fair Steve you couldn't of put that line in a more offensive way if you tried
Scott, you understimate me. :)
Justsme:
Your orignal post said:
"If you ever needed any proof of how effective Search Engine Optimisation is"
My reply was merely pointing out that your success (to date) isn't proof of what effective SEO work can do for your rankings.
All it really proves is - as Peter said - that no-one else is going for these phrases.
And, as a professional SEO company, you should know that.
JuseSME SEO: http://pis-studios.co.uk/seo/
Steve
Justsme
26th May 2007, 14:46
Your exactly right, the competition on the keywords I ran todays report on aren't that high with advertising competition which is exactly why I am concentrating on getting as high as possible rankings with them.
If you guys feel the need to take a negative view of a very good offer then thats your call and if you can't understand why I am looking at gettng high rankings on non-competitive keywords then maybe you should find out.
The offer is their if people want to take advantage of it, it's that simple.
sirearl
26th May 2007, 14:57
Justme I think it would be of far more use to potential advertisers if you published your unique visitor stats over this period,Being No 1 for a thousand different things is no good if that is not what they are searching for.
SteveGibson
26th May 2007, 15:11
JustSME
The title you gave to this thread is "Proof SEO Works."
So, I thought it was legitimate for me to address the question of whether or not your results are "proof".
Perhaps the thread should have been titled "advertise your site online free" and it wouldn't have turned into an SEO discussion?
Steve
garyk
26th May 2007, 15:56
Well I couldn't find you on the first two pages of yahoo for your terms and your google PR is zero (ok so I know that isnt the be-all and end-all) and as has been pointed out who will actually search for 'sme directory', people are searching for specific things not generalisations.
sandpetra
26th May 2007, 16:35
I actually don't care for these kind of reports. I have seen some clients totally diddled out of their cash through these kind of ranking reports.
The fact is that ranking for "bestconservatorysingaporeuk" isn't going to help you out much in terms of leads when you want leads for your conservatory website.
I have seen company websites that claim "17,084 Top 1 positions for clients" and to be honest the vast majority of them are useless keyword combinations or complete phrases and some even have the cheek to process all your website leads through their system! One company I have recently taken 2 clients off of (I won't name) didn't touch the client site for over a year!!!! All they did was buy domain names and make duplicate mini sites (100% totally crap seo) and produce weekly keyword reports.
I new they didn't touch the site because I could see the date modification date on the files. They were charging the client @ £10K per year and had signed them up for 3 years!
My advice is based on taking clients off these kind of businesses (a very lucrative trade!) - I would stay away from them.
I'm not saying the original poster is unethical - certainly not. I am just wary of anyone who promises a lot and fast and I have been put off big time in the past with these useless reports. I am willing to be corrected on this is if I can find merit in the service on offer
Lets see how well it works shall we as in the end it's all about results. I want to test how competitive the term is you're highlighting and if there was any money in it would it be that easy?
You mention you are number 18 (is that supposed to be good?) in Google for the following keywords for "SME Business Directory"? I am going to see if it is possible to get to the first page of this key term with 1 article on my website. In less than a week.
• Read my article here: "SME Business Directory (http://www.hobo-web.co.uk/seo-blog/?p=155)"
• Check Progress in Google Blog Search (http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=SME+Business+Directory&btnG=Search+Blogs) here (got to number 1 in 4 minutes):
• Check Progress in Google here (http://www.google.co.uk/search?num=100&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=fMd&q=SME+Business+Directory&btnG=Search&meta=) (in a couple of days and then in a week):
Bear in mind I am not going to "super-optimise and promote this page". I am just going to rewrite an article and throw a couple of links at it from social networking sites. This is all most small businesses need to do to rank for terms in their immediate geographic location if your blog is set up properly.
I'd expect to get into the top couple of pages and perhaps see the position degrade over time as frankly it's not a term I want (even though I have a product launching soon). bear in mind I've not done any kind of keyword analysis or stuff yet - this is just a shot in the dark.
I'll put my money where my mouth is - anyone else up for a challenge - actually this forum could well feature for these terms too :)
Rob Holmes
26th May 2007, 17:00
I am going to see if it is possible to get to the first page of this key term with 1 article on my website. In less than a week.
I'll put my money where my mouth is - anyone else up for a challenge - actually this forum could well feature for these terms too :)
No offense, but I farted last Tuesday and it got me better rankings in google.
Maybe have a race with the ever flatulent Steve Gibson?
:D
Rob
sandpetra
26th May 2007, 17:09
I can fart on command - and I am a veggie! :)
SteveGibson
26th May 2007, 17:20
I'll put my money where my mouth is - anyone else up for a challenge
I think a UKBF SEO challenge would be interesting.
(though I'd have no chance of winning)
However, using JustSME's business name/terms wouldn't be fair on him.
How about the term: brigadoon carwash
Rules are:
(1) Winner is the person who gets a page highest for that term in google.com 7 days after the start of competition
(2) You're not allowed to have any of the words "brigadoon", "car", "wash", "carwash" in your domain name.
Come on SEO's, sign up for the pissing contest! :D
Steve
Rob Holmes
26th May 2007, 17:26
Hmm - Maybe leave it longer than a week.
Tell you what to save this going off topic - maybe let me kick this around with Ozzy and the other mods and we'll maybe come up with something official?
Maybe a few prizes and we'll select the keywords ?
Rob
sirearl
26th May 2007, 17:45
Steve a red rag to a bull my ego is nearly as large as my wallet only thing is all you kids think that "golf parts" is a minority niche market and you will squabble about the results so I declare myself the winner now to save any arguing :) .
And does your flatuence not depent upon what was on the menu at the local Indian :D
sandpetra
26th May 2007, 18:04
Oh god not another seo contest!
I will be up for the competition when it starts proper. I'll use no more than 500 words on the site and one page. Might not win it but I've been meaning to test something out so what the hell.....
spammers not welcome - I'm not going up against them!
sirearl
26th May 2007, 18:16
Now come on Shaun you know we all love a challenge,but to make it more interesting I think it should be based on the SEO's yearly sales ,cause thats what its all about.:p
Also as I tried to get free adds to do,the amount of unique hits per day,and as I am half Scotish and half Russian Jew how much do I get for winning this ?
sirearl
26th May 2007, 18:21
Sandpetra wee's in the real world not rugby or eaton .
One wins by fair means or foul,black or white gloves orf init old chap.
SteveGibson
26th May 2007, 18:22
And does your flatuence not depent upon what was on the menu at the local Indian
I should perhaps clarify ...
Like Shaun, I don't eat meat, so I really don't fart that much.
Unlike Shaun, I can't fart on demand, there's clearly no end to his talents.
I take my hat off to him (and then use it to waft away the smell).
Steve
This sounds daft - therefore good fun! However, can anyone hope to rank for brigadoon carwash so soon; it must be a very competitive term.
sandpetra
26th May 2007, 19:24
sirearl (http://www.ukbusinessforums.co.uk/forums/member.php?u=12231) I salute your gentlemanly conduct. Black Hat is a bit like the dark side of the force. It's better and cooler, but ultimately, it will fail long term (and with paying customers that's a no-no, unless you're in it for the quick conman buck and to increase your "yearly sales").
But you raise a good point - for the purposes of competition why should it be ethical. SEO is SEO - black or white. I personally don't think White hat stands up to Black Hat.
But I've never won a sales pitch saying "I'll get you to the top of Google next week and you can make a mint. Of course as soon as Google finds out you can kiss goodbye to your online brand".
Call me a dreamer but I like to think if I keep on the white/gray I won't get hammered by Google the way Webmasters at webmasterword.com are always moaning about every time Google changes things - and you know what, I don't.
I'll aim to be in the top results out of the white-hats rather than all and out black hats (kudos). :)
PS - I would also like to add if we did this we could give 301 the page links to a winning charity or something at the end or give the site to a good cause? If that's the case then we can't let the black hats in becuase in a couple of weeks / months the site would be nuked - why not do something of some use to some organisation.
The threads well off topic but I think Steve's idea is way better than this ********. I love it when my posts are automatically sensored.
**** Me!
sirearl
26th May 2007, 20:30
Shaun never use black hat since Google caught me and I lost the No 1 spot for "cars for sale" hit me in the sporan rather badly.
I never enter competitions in case I am exposed for the Charlatan that I am, allied to "Grucho Marks" I ain't joining a club that would have me as a member.
My protege entered the SEO world championships this year and came 31st ,but he believes the other 30 cheated :)
sandpetra
26th May 2007, 21:05
They might just well have done. :D
UKSBD
26th May 2007, 21:30
You mention you are number 18 (is that supposed to be good?) in Google for the following keywords for "SME Business Directory"? I am going to see if it is possible to get to the first page of this key term with 1 article on my website. In less than a week.
LOL,
I just checked and I am no.8 already with an internal nothing page that only
mentions SME once on it.
Justsme
27th May 2007, 00:02
UKSBD - Do you know what design means? why spend your energy trying to knock me???? it's funny looking at everyone who feels the need to have a go at me, you all either live off SEO or run a directory???
What makes me laugh is none of you get the point at all and obviously lack any understanding of what I am trying to do or what has been achieved already please, feel free to continue airing your frustration at my views and expense, and I'm sure you will have alot of fun doing so.
What you maybe don't realise is I know exactly what I'm doing and by the way SME means Small to Medium Enterprise a very common term that actually gets a lot of hits. Have you heard of spiders? maybe not, I won't be returning to this forum after this evening as their seem to be a number of people here who have no interest in anything except trying to make themselves feel better, if you want to take advantage take advantage if you don't , don't I really don't care. What you will see however is JustSME will get high rankings and will help deliver business to those who come along if you don't want to be a part of it don't and as I said before if you really think you know what you are doing when it comes to SEO and you can sit there and rubbish me then you have no business here or anywhere.
My clients are built on customers who have been screwed by people telling them "Give me a grand" this doesn't happen.
If you have nothing better than sit there and knock people who try and do things that might help others then get a life.
Justsme is about building a community for businesses and giving them what they deserve for as little as possible maybe I chose a wrong idea, I won't be coming back here.
I hope I give something to those of you that will enjoy tearing me apart and I hope your businesses succeed, this is a hobby of mine that I have been very successfull for over ten years, I hope you succeed in your goals and if you have nothing better to do than slag me off maybe you need to look closer to home to where your problems lie. I'm sure my comments today will give you plenty to talk about.
Best Regards,
Lee
sandpetra
27th May 2007, 00:43
Lee
It's a forum for discussion. I'm sorry if you took offence at any of my posts expecially and thoughts on your directory, but this is what happens (in this forum especially!) when you are in this game - the PPCs hate the seos (or continually back 1 to the hilt) and the seos have a feeding frenzy on new seos (I suppose the same happens in PPC land).
And this is just for the big claims newbies make! There's a few people around here who just seem well snidey - but even that becomes fun if you can stand the back chat.
With hindsight I may have been a little out of line. :redface:
I think it is because there is a lot of business going around - makes everyone act like pirahnna and bullies. I'll say again I did not intentionally mean to slag you off but i was focusing on the thing about "numbers" of no1 positions - I don't think it's an ethical means of ROI for customers these days, but that's obviously my opinion and mine alone.
You can get 1 million no1s that all have no value. That's the way I see it. It makes these kind of reports debatable. The only measurable thing is - which of these keywords leads to the sale - there might only be one!
I assumed that because you were an seo you were creating the directory for "link-bait" for yourself or just plain old business networking for new clients - both of which I don't see any thing wrong with.
So anyways I hope it's not put you off participating in the forum (although I fear the damage is already done) and wish you the best.
Shaun :)
sirearl
27th May 2007, 01:57
Hear hear Shaun I think possibly the value of a website should be counted by how many unique visitors it has ,as you say you can have a thousand N0 1's.But if you have traffic you have a site that can be adapted to sell anything.
So Lee don't be offended by all the *****ing ,it is a well known fact that the SEO community haven't a clue what they are doing and just stab around in the dark.
A point that is illustrated by the very diverse opinions shown by various SEO on this forum.
Unlike us true professionals who retired long ago and live of the fruits of our labours :)
sandpetra
27th May 2007, 02:32
A debate between two sides doesn't mean one of the sides don't know what they are talking about. :)
You should make a sig up Sirearl that repeats a lot of the stuff you post about (traffic, money, sales, professional seo ;) - it would save you time :)
sirearl
27th May 2007, 02:43
Shaun I might if I knew what a "sig" is.
Listen if I get on a plane I want the pilot to be trained the same as the other pilots or I ain't getting on :)
UKSBD
27th May 2007, 08:20
UKSBD - why spend your energy trying to knock me????
Knock you?
I haven't even replied to you.
I was replying to sandpetra, looked at the target phrase he was talking about
and was amused to find my site in the top 10 even though I wasn't even
targetting the phrase.
SWServices
27th May 2007, 09:36
Is SEO a load of hot air?
I haven't done a thing on our site because to be honest i just dont have the time. Just done a quick check for the following keywords of google:
''secure ecommerce websites'' - Number 1 spot
''secure e-commerce websites'' - Number 1 spot
''secure ecommerce hosting'' - Number 6 spot
''Secure carts'' - Number 9 spot
Im happy with that, We also have a PR of 4!
SteveGibson
27th May 2007, 09:57
JustSME
I'm sorry you feel we've been knocking you, but have a look at this from your first post:
If you ever needed any proof of how effective Search Engine Optimisation is and substantiation as to what we say about how quickly we are moving up the search engines and why you should advertise on our site, check out this report (3.66mb).
This report compares today Saturday the 26th May against the last report we ran last week on Sunday. In less than five days we have:
170 New No.1 Positions!
I think this "invited" a discussion about SEO and about how well your site is doing on the search engines.
(particularly given the title of this thread is "Proof SEO works")
And, it's not surprising that the people who took up the "invitation" mentioned that these #1 positions had little to do with SEO.
For example, I have a site www.stevegibsonconsulting.co.uk that's had no SEO done to it.
It's #1 in google for: stevegibsonconsulting
It's also #1 in google for
stevegibsonconsulting market
stevegibsonconsulting they
stevegibsonconsulting problem
stevegibsonconsulting spend
stevegibsonconsulting half
stevegibsonconsulting living
... and a few hundred other terms.
(pretty much: stevegibsonconsulting + any word on my site)
Over all the search engines, that site probably has over 10,000 #1 positions.
If only people searched on these terms ... I'd be rich!
(actually, I wouldn't, I'd just be more over-worked)
So, I think many of the remarks about SEO on this thread were just that, remarks about SEO. And I think most of the comments made towards you were on topic.
And this is where I think the problem has been: you set the topic as being about SEO and about your SEO results, so that's what was discussed.
Perhaps it would have been better if you had made your thread about free advertising?
Finally, if my "fart" comment offended you, I apologise. It's a figure of speech in some circles up here and is merely used to signify that a particular set of results is unremarkable.
Steve
sandpetra
27th May 2007, 12:12
SWSERVICES
Is SEO a load of hot air?
God not again - why don't we all target these phrases from swservices and see if seo is hot air :) It's the only way to be sure.....
FunkyBears
27th May 2007, 12:13
As a non SEO person, what lessons are to be learnt from this lively debate?
Am I right in assuming that is is no use having a number one position for an obscure keyword that nobodys uses (other than the SEO guy) and therefore has no value whatsoever however clever it seems? The Proof that SEO works
should be monetary and regarded as a ROI. Indeed the rest of it is a load of hot air!
sirearl
27th May 2007, 12:24
Flying cards Hot air is an intrinsic part of British Life .Take that away and we would all think we had gone deaf.
Hence the second largest company in the UK is Vodaphone :)
As for you summing up as to how to asess the value of SEO.
Your right on the BUTTON ;) :)
SWServices
27th May 2007, 14:12
''God not again - why don't we all target these phrases from swservices and see if seo is hot air :) It's the only way to be sure.....''
If that makes you feel big then do it. :)
I was simply asking a question and letting people know i don't do any SEO with my site and still get a good google ranking.
sirearl
27th May 2007, 14:23
SWservices Ignore him,he lives in a little rocky place somewhere north of Watford .Its just his insecurity showing allied to not having enought in his sporan to pay his Psychiatrists bill :)
sandpetra
27th May 2007, 16:28
SWServices - Please don't take me the wrong way. Of course I'm not that petty (or unethical), but I'm just standing up for my industry, when you asked "Is SEO hot air?"
I am just pointing out to you that because it is not, your positions can be taken away from you via seo on a competitor's site.
I hope you get my point. :)
sandpetra
27th May 2007, 16:36
FlyingCards (http://www.ukbusinessforums.co.uk/forums/member.php?u=6159)
You are absolutely correct and this is what we're trying to tackle on this thread I hope - the fact that telling you your number 1 for 1000 keyphrases in Google when you're phone isnt ringing or your email is empty is pointless and in my opinion a bit "shady" to say the least.
So what? The seo has a programme that can query google for every possible phrases your site can rank for. This is not the way to judge seo - not by a ****ing long shot. An seo should be involved getting you to the top for your money keywords -
ie sum your business up in 1, 2 and 3 words and then see where you rank in Google for those. Once you sort that out you can spread out and target all the four and five and six longtail variations to match peoples searches for your sevice or product.
Steve sums it up pretty well why this report is effectively useless, although i know for a fact there are a few big companies in the UK punting this sort of thing.
sandpetra
27th May 2007, 16:40
Sirearl Could I be sold bold to ask you to help me out with paying my (expensive) mental health bills for me seeing as you are making a mint all over the place with your amazing internet money schemes in your retirement :)
sirearl
27th May 2007, 18:30
Shaun of course dear boy .How much is a frontal Lobotomy these days?:p
I don't think any of my schemes have ever been amazing,in fact very simple.
If I make you a pound will you give me 50 pence?
There you go that should pay all your mental health bills for a while.
Can I suggest Deep Phycho Analysis to try to rid yourself of the fantasy that your an SEO consultant :):):)
Can I suggest Deep Phycho Analysis to try to rid yourself of the fantasy that your an SEO consultant :):):)
Ouch, Earl; please be nice to Shaun :( (and vice versa) It is amazing that SEO is the only subject that seems to cause a competitive argument around here!
PS - if you are a "paid up" member please see my latest post in the "private" forum under "review my website" :)
sirearl
27th May 2007, 19:07
Ray I am being nice to Shaun ,and I hope he knows it.This is a bit of banter between 2 fiesty Scotsmen me Thinks :)
As to that crappy site you stole of that poor chap.I was sniffing round it but decided it was to good to be true.
Great potential :)
sandpetra
27th May 2007, 20:17
LOL - Thanks RayB - me and earl can get along just fine (he's a Scot after all!) :) :)
sandpetra
27th May 2007, 20:19
Earl i will be sending you my bills for prompt payment for the pain and mental anguish your previous post has caused me.... :)
50p should indeed cover it. :)
FunkyBears
28th May 2007, 14:36
<title> :: JustSME UK SME Business Directory</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=iso-8859-1" />
<base href="http://www.justsme.com/" />
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="http://www.justsme.com/templates/Alm.../css/style.css" />
<link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="Teddy Bears" href="http://www.justsme.com/plugins/rss/feed.php?id=84" />
<meta name="description" content=", http://www.justsme.com, 84, Teddy Bears, FunkyBears, Personalised Teddy Bears as Gifts for all Occasions. Every bear comes in a Free Gift box with its own passport! Free UK delivery with no VAT. Your can choose from a range of exclusive Teddy Bears specially dyed colours and a large selection of hooded tops. FREE Personalised Card with every order, http://www.funkybears.com" />
<meta name="keywords" content=", http://www.justsme.com, Teddy Bears, Personalised Teddy Bears as Gifts for all Occasions. Every bear comes in a Free Gift box with its own passport! Free UK delivery with no VAT. Your can choose from a range of exclusive Teddy Bears specially dyed colours and a large selection of hooded tops. FREE Personalised Card with every order, http://www.funkybears.com" />
The search engine picked up this code from this site but hasn't seemed to pick it up fro the SME business directory. Why is this?
Ray I am being nice to Shaun ,and I hope he knows it.This is a bit of banter between 2 fiesty Scotsmen me Thinks :)
I didnt realise SEO stood for Scottish Eppreciation Organisation :)
You'll have Steve Gibson chiming in now too.
sandpetra
28th May 2007, 14:52
I didnt realise SEO stood for Scottish Eppreciation Organisation :)
**** the secrets out! :)
sirearl
28th May 2007, 15:17
I didnt realise SEO stood for Scottish Eppreciation Organisation :)
You'll have Steve Gibson chiming in now too.
Listen mate 70% of the worlds greatest inventions came from us "picks" and there's only 5 million of us,and don't you sasanachs think we have forgotten culloden either :) :) :)
Readers Please Beware!
Numbers of listings is a very poor indication of success. For instance our website is top for many thousands of phrase searches.
Success of SEO should be measured by leads/revenue generated by SEO not numbers of listings!
Directories are also a very poor method of website promotion. Long gone are the days when internet users used a directory to find products and services - and for SEO, Google is not silly when analysing where links to your site have come from - if they are from a FFA (Free for All) web directory do you think they will give this link much weight?
The best thing to do is stick to the basics (get a listing in DMOZ & Yahoo's Directory) and then carry out optimisation the proper way.
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sandpetra
29th May 2007, 16:58
Here here but I still think even Dmoz / Yahoo is old hat. (Yahoos probably still one of the most valuable of crowded market although I haven't bothered doing it for ages.)
Why pay £199 for a couple of links that at best will raise your PR to 4 if you have no links? It MIGHT be worth it for trust / relevance but at that price? I don't think so any more.
Why pay when you can get good quality links in the blogosphere for nowt.
- Earl i'm sure you know that there was as many scots on the english side that day so just lets stick to Falkirk, Stirling or Bannockburn! :)
W@CKJONNY
29th May 2007, 18:55
Every time i make a pst i can never find it....?
sirearl
29th May 2007, 19:33
Every time i make a pst i can never find it....?
sounds like your half pst to me:)
Lucy McIntyre
12th June 2007, 23:12
Looks interesting, will have a look at your claims
GreatSEO
22nd June 2007, 16:15
JustSME
I would like to talk to you about what we can do together
Please Pm me with some contact details
Regards
Dave
Justsme
23rd June 2007, 00:38
Try typing "funkybears" or "flyingbears" into Google
<title> :: JustSME UK SME Business Directory</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=iso-8859-1" />
<base href="http://www.justsme.com/" />
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="http://www.justsme.com/templates/Alm.../css/style.css" />
<link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="Teddy Bears" href="http://www.justsme.com/plugins/rss/feed.php?id=84" />
<meta name="description" content=", http://www.justsme.com, 84, Teddy Bears, FunkyBears, Personalised Teddy Bears as Gifts for all Occasions. Every bear comes in a Free Gift box with its own passport! Free UK delivery with no VAT. Your can choose from a range of exclusive Teddy Bears specially dyed colours and a large selection of hooded tops. FREE Personalised Card with every order, http://www.funkybears.com" />
<meta name="keywords" content=", http://www.justsme.com, Teddy Bears, Personalised Teddy Bears as Gifts for all Occasions. Every bear comes in a Free Gift box with its own passport! Free UK delivery with no VAT. Your can choose from a range of exclusive Teddy Bears specially dyed colours and a large selection of hooded tops. FREE Personalised Card with every order, http://www.funkybears.com" />
The search engine picked up this code from this site but hasn't seemed to pick it up fro the SME business directory. Why is this?