Why Dmoz takes longer time for a backlink?

[Reflections]

I cann't understand why Dmoz takes a long time to give a back link, where as it never restricts any body to submit again and again.

What will be the possible reasons about this?

[Reflections]

Interesting there is no answer from any one !

[Aspect Investments]

DMOZ is not the site it once was.

Dont worry too much about getting listed there.

[PeteYoung]

Not enough mods, to moderate the submissions.


Like EBA said - its not the site it once was

[asimov]

Looks like a good forum.

I'm a newbie to SEO and I've just started implementing some of the things I've been reading about (specifically link-building ).

1. How do I keep track of my website's SEO progress?

2. How would you guys rate inbound links vs. reciprocal links in terms of importance ? - 70/30 , 90/10 , in favour of inbound?

Thanks guys

Asimov

[Reflections]

I think the importance of reciprocal links is 70/30 in comparision to One way links. But keep in mind that the reciprocal links should be from higher ranked pages will help.

[Reflections]

After the discussion i submited my site again in Dmoz.
Can any one tell me the probable duration of getting listed?

[wood1e2]

There is no length to it. Unfortunately as stated too many submissions not enough editors.

And it may not be the site it once was, but to be listed is better than not to be listed. Being that DMOZ powers several directories, including Google Business directory, and AOL.

[kimmrunner]

Looks like a good forum.

1. How do I keep track of my website's SEO progress?


Asimov
Web position gold is worth the money.

[wood1e2]

There are a few different software tools to use...search google for "seo tools"

[RayB]

Being that DMOZ powers several directories, including Google Business directory, and AOL.

Here is a question - has google stopped updating it directory from DMOZ feeds?

I'm just curious - we have been listed in DMOZ for over a year - but do not show up in Google Directory - have they not updated for more than a year?

[Reflections]

Is there any tool that show me about the position of my site in Dmoz?

[sirearl]

Web position gold is worth the money.

be carefull if using web position gold.

quote from Googles guidlines:

Don't use unauthorized computer programs to submit pages, check rankings, etc. Such programs consume computing resources and violate our Terms of Service (http://www.google.com/terms_of_service.html). Google does not recommend the use of products such as WebPosition Gold™ that send automatic or programmatic queries to Google.

Earl

[Magsite]

just type your domain name e.g magsite.co.uk in the search box in dmoz.org

if your there your listing will appear along with the directory location that you are in.

[Lucy McIntyre]

Does anyone else use web position gold?

[Reflections]

Yes, google does not like tools like web position gold

[sabian1982]

Haven't read everyones responses, but as mentioned by a couple...

DMOZ isn't the quality directory it once was - theres a lot of corruption amongst the editors and DMOZ itself has suffered hosting down time and loss of submissions in the past (to name a few issues).

Further more if you submit to DMOZ, do so and forget about it, you could be waiting anywhere from 1-2 months to 1-3 years depending on various factors.

Finally never submit your listing more than once, because everytime you resubmit, if your listing is pending its moved back to the end of the queue, hence you have to start your wait all over again :)

EDIT: oh and they only update the search function on a routine basis - hence you might be listed but you might not show up when using the search results!

[Reflections]

Thank u for the above two site

[KevP]

1. How do I keep track of my website's SEO progress?

2. How would you guys rate inbound links vs. reciprocal links in terms of importance ? - 70/30 , 90/10 , in favour of inbound?


1. I tend to use Google analytics (which is free) to track traffic, I create and submit an xml sitemap to google.com/webmasters which gives me access to stats on my site such as backlinks and anchor text.
I use siteexplorer.search.yahoo.com to check my backlinks and competitor tools also.
SEOmoz.org has some brilliant tracking and competitor tools also.
However the best way to track your SEO progress is by checking your position within the SERPs (search engine results pages) for your chosen keywords.

2. inbound links are the most important part of SEO strategy. Reciprocal linking is pretty much dead already. Google have very clever algorithms that allow them to assess the intent of a link, if it is a reciprocal link then it has very little or no weight. Things like relationships between sites, locations, times that links appear on sites and many other factors are key.

My best advice would be to look into what tools you can build for your industry that you can place within deep pages on your websites that will attract links.
Deep linking to pages is worth a lot more than surface linking to your home page, as the intent is clearer that that page is important and it not just fluff link.
A link to any page on your site increases the authority of your entire domain, you can also work your information architecture to pass the link authority from that page to others more directly.

I hope this helps,
any questions give me a shout

[queenbishop5]

I've submitted a couple of websites........and that's pretty much the last you hear of it.

EBA mentioned it's not the site it once was. I'm not doubting it, but can anyone recommend a site that has perhaps superseded it?

Lisa

[jeremymgp]

DMOZ has been unable to keep up with user submissions for years now, there's little recourse except to keep trying and build a site that will get their attention.

About Web Position Gold, don't touch it with a bargepole. This is automated, low-quality SEO software that ceased to fool Google say around 2002. I can't post the URL because I haven't got 15 posts yet (that's what I'm trying to do now :) ), but search Google for "google web position gold", check the first result and read the "quality guidelines". Web Position GOld has precious little to do with quality, ethical site promotion, there are better ways.

Best Regards,
Jeremy

[Reflections]

Thank u for your tips.
Google collects information form the open directories like Dmoz. so if any site is listed in Dmoz once then it comes in many SEs and google database easily.
So it becomes essential to listed in Dmoz.

[KevP]

Hi Reflections,
I would tend to disagree on it being essential to be listed in DMOZ.
That may have been true a few years ago, but as said in this post dmoz is not the site it once was.

I have found at the moment that its quicker and easier to get submitted into search engines by creating an xml sitemap, uploading it to google webmaster tools and adding it to your robots.txt file.

You can set your sitemap to ping the major search engines when it is updated in order to let them know your site has changed.

[jeremymgp]

Hi Reflections,

Thank u for your tips.
Google collects information form the open directories like Dmoz. so if any site is listed in Dmoz once then it comes in many SEs and google database easily.
So it becomes essential to listed in Dmoz.You're right, it's true that once a site gets listed in DMOZ, then the search engines will pick up the link, it will help your rankings, and also anyone who clones the DMOZ on their site will also be adding a link to your site also.

It is also true however that DMOZ is just another link, so that if you get it that's nice but if not there are still unlimited opportunities to get links by other means. Also DMOZ is now also open to Google duplicate filter algorithms, so a link from DMOZ is perhaps reduced somewhat in importance compared to a few years ago.

With such a niche site topic it's likely getting into the DMOZ will take ages, and may well simply not happen. It doesn't matter whatsoever. If you get in, you get in. If you don't you don't. All you can do really is apply and then let it be, so I think that's what you should do. Either way, keep building good links and good content and your site will grow.

For example, you could:
- research a list of anywhere between 10-300+ bathroom keywords or products related to your site
- create pages around those keywords/products, keep it sincerely useful from the user's point of view.
- Make sure to name and Title your pages with the keywords/products in question.
- make a reasonable design (helps but not essential)
- research other non-competing bathroom sites around the UK and ask for links.
That would probably be enough to get you top 10 positions for niche bathroom-related keywords, and you would've saved yourself 1000s of pounds hiring overpriced SEOs to do it for you.

See, now the DMOZ doesn't seem so important after all :).

Hope this helps,

Good luck,
Jeremy

[Reflections]

Thank U Jeremy for your nice tips.

[jeremymgp]

Any time, take care and good luck with the site.

All the best,
Jeremy

[queenbishop5]

Jeremymgp,

Good tips, succinctly put.

I've recently installed Axandra which takes the donkey work out of finding competitors links, lists of competitors, and key words. Of course it doesn't do everything for you (which is a shame!).

Wonder if anyone else in here has used it and found it useful and if you have, could you give me any tips on maximising it's usage? I'm probably not getting my money's worth out of it as I've not yet sat down and read the manual...yeah, yeah, v bad I know! My excuse is that I'm far too busy working (which is true, honestly).

Thanks guys :-)

Lisa

[Reflections]

Axandra is helpful for link building one way and recip. It also helpful for sending E-mails after setting the format. It can find sites for you from any region or location. It needs some practice to familar with Axandra software ARELIS or IBP. But for One way i think manual submission is the best.

[queenbishop5]

Thanks Reflections on your comments.

I think I need to get my fundamental settings sorted out...the links it throws up for me have totally no relevance to my business whatsoever!!! Waste of time....

Cheers.

Lisa

[Chris Jones]

Looks like a good forum.

I'm a newbie to SEO and I've just started implementing some of the things I've been reading about (specifically link-building ).

1. How do I keep track of my website's SEO progress?

2. How would you guys rate inbound links vs. reciprocal links in terms of importance ? - 70/30 , 90/10 , in favour of inbound?

Thanks guys

Asimov
99/1 in favour of inbound as it is only inbound links which will effect your Google PR. Google now view reciprocal links as potential link farms so place very little relevence/authority to them.

[kevgibbo]

Does anyone know if the Google Directory is still updated?

I got a listing in DMOZ at the end of last year but it's still not in Google Directory yet.

[RayB]

Does anyone know if the Google Directory is still updated?

I got a listing in DMOZ at the end of last year but it's still not in Google Directory yet.

I was curious about this too (as per earlier post) - we have been in DMOZ for well over a year yet still do not appear in Google Directory.

My hunch is that they have simply stopped updating it from DMOZ

[Reflections]

I think your link is supplimentary i.e. the links has not been reviewed.