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Ian Feingold
5th August 2010, 13:42
Just wondered if a low Google PR rank is having any effect on my position in Google for my keywords? Should we be concerned and, if so, any tips on what we could be doing?
Thanks in advance!
Jay-UK
5th August 2010, 13:52
ONE of many parts to getting good serps.
So if you have a balanced page with good content, links, social marking, yada yada yada it can help...but alone will not do much
gemd89
5th August 2010, 14:06
My homepage have a PR4! God knows how i got that!
Gemma
NutPog
5th August 2010, 14:09
As I understand it, the higher your page rank the more often Google will crawl your site for updated content.
I, Brian
5th August 2010, 14:14
Just wondered if a low Google PR rank is having any effect on my position in Google for my keywords? Should we be concerned and, if so, any tips on what we could be doing?
Thanks in advance!
Nothing to be worried about at all.
These days, PageRank as displayed through the Google Toolbar simply provides a graphical representation of the strength of the site's link profile - ie, high the green bar, the stronger the site profile.
Toolbar PR almost certainly has nothing useful to do with ranking positions.
When IB was Platinax it moved from PR4 to PR7 in a quarter - no significant change in traffic.
Meanwhile, one forum I was running brought in 250k uniques per month on PR3.
Mike Grehan, who is very clued in with search technology (and spoke frequently with engineers from all big search companies), suggested a few years back that PR had become diminished as a ranking signal within Google to the point of being a tie-breaker between pages - at best.
Since then, even that role has almost certainly been diminished, least least the various patents Google have released focusing on authoritative citation, semantic relationships, temporal factors, and clickstream use (ie, user traffic as shaping the ranking algorithm).
All in all, PR is *absolutely nothing* to be concerned about. It is simply a nice badge to wear when high, but strong sales and increasing ROI will provide a better ego trip IMO. :)
franchiseshop
5th August 2010, 15:09
As I understand it, the higher your page rank the more often Google will crawl your site for updated content.
I think you understand it completely wrong. Toolbar pagerank is simply an indicator of how much PR has been passed to your website via external and internal linking.
Google crawls your site based on how often you update/add content and the number of fresh links pointing to your website.
For the OP:
Higher pagerank is obviously preferable but is not the sole factor in ranking highly. an excellent competitor of mine has PR3 to my PR5 yet ranks better than my website for many dozens of keyphrases despite us both being optimised well for them. This is due to a number of factors. 1. External links. 2 Internal links 3. Site age. 4. Domain authority. 5 Trust rank. 6. Onpage optimisation... The list goes on as Google has dozens of signals that it uses to rank a webpage for a particular phrase. What I am trying to say is NO, toolbar pagerank is not the sole factor of how well your website will rank in the SERPs.
NutPog
5th August 2010, 15:51
PageRank reflects our view of the importance of web pages by considering more than 500 million variables and 2 billion terms. Pages that we believe are important pages receive a higher PageRank and are more likely to appear at the top of the search results.
PageRank also considers the importance of each page that casts a vote, as votes from some pages are considered to have greater value, thus giving the linked page greater value. We have always taken a pragmatic approach to help improve search quality and create useful products, and our technology uses the collective intelligence of the web to determine a page's importance.
Source: http://www.google.com/corporate/tech.html
seo next
5th August 2010, 19:58
I run a site which gets a million uniques a month and its a PR 3 :)
terryuk
6th August 2010, 14:03
I wouldn't worry about your PR too much.. had plenty of PR1 sites outrank high PR pages. It can sometimes determine a sites authority to some extent..
irishguru
6th August 2010, 14:51
I run a site which gets a million uniques a month and its a PR 3 :)
Millions... hmmm
Mind sharing exactly how many million?
And how much that many million is worth?
My highest is 30k visits per month..
Ali-v-8
6th August 2010, 15:13
He is in india LOL High population :p:D only kidding
PR is not as important as you would think or are led to believe, but it can help.
Millions... hmmm
Mind sharing exactly how many million?
And how much that many million is worth?
My highest is 30k visits per month..
irishguru
6th August 2010, 15:17
He is in india LOL High population :p:D only kidding
PR is not as important as you would think or are led to believe, but it can help.
Lol..
I could get 10 million visits a month from Twitter quite easily.. problem is they keep banning the accounts lol.
sirearl
6th August 2010, 15:44
I run a site which gets a million uniques a month and its a PR 3 :)
Blimey what you flogging on that site.?
Earl
uncommondeal
6th August 2010, 17:35
Truely PRs are good, they are like a badge for your website but backlinks are what makes you good ranking in your choosen keywords.