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multilingual
7th February 2006, 09:49
Morning All,

Building links is still an effective way to promote websites, but reciprocal links seem to be of little (or no) benefit anymore. However, we do still need links, so here is my plan:

I have four website running at the moment as part of our translation business. We started out doing only Russian translations, so our two Russian sites are well established with a PR5 and PR4.

The other two sites are relatively new and needs links to help them along, so I would be happy to link to you from the Russian sites if you would link to either the Polish one or the Professional one as detailed below:

Business Translation Service
Professional written translation service for legal, technical and industrial projects.
http://www.professional-translation-services.co.uk

Russian Translation
English to Russian translation service. Nine years experience, ITI member
http://www.english-to-russian-translation.com

Freelance Russian Translation
ITI listed member offering professional Russian translations at freelance rates. Personal friendly service.
http://www.1st-russian-translation.co.uk

Polish Translation Service
Accurate Polish translation service for business
http://www.english-to-polish-translation.co.uk


PM me if interested.

:)

Cheers

JB

Jayne
7th February 2006, 11:38
Your sites are all looking great JB :D

Jayne

mattk
7th February 2006, 12:05
Why don't you submit to online directories? There are hundreds of directories that are free to get listed on, they offer you search engine friendly links and don't require you to link back to them.

Jayne
7th February 2006, 13:26
A tip..when putting you biz in directories, write down the names of the ones you've done, because i've forgotten where i've put mine :lol:

Jayne

multilingual
7th February 2006, 14:54
Matt,

I could go for directories, but many of them are nothing more than link farms.

Could do more harm than good in the long run.

Just my opinion.

JB

mattk
7th February 2006, 15:18
That is true to an extend, but some directories are very highly regarded. A link from a directory like DMOZ is worth 500 links from a site that sells ink cartridges.

I think you're time would be much better spent submitting to directory than link building with sites that have little or no relation to yours.

multilingual
7th February 2006, 16:15
Why not do both?

A search engine has to understand relevance based on text content, and it doesn't seem to be an exact science. A backilink check on my links shows 71 sites, many of them with no PR and no relevance, yet I know that my site s listed on sites with more relevance that those yet they don't come up on a back search.

As for Dmoz, :x

Been trying for 2 years to get on that, with no success.

Does anyone know a Dmoz editor that would like a brown envelope full of tenners?

JB

Jayne
7th February 2006, 21:23
I think Ozzy is one JB...how many tenners would it take for a listing do you think? :lol:

Jayne

duenna
8th February 2006, 03:52
Not all free directories are link farms!! Check out Vilesilencers website and you will see really quality directories which will take your listing.

I run a directory and I have pondered over it since its inception and even through the last Google update it went to PR 3 from zero. All categories are spidered and links are followed.

Take a look if you like at www.dmscs.co.uk/links

I agree what has been stated about DMOZ, never underestimate the importance of a listing there. One other tip, if you are listed in DMOZ and they have written the discription for your website, if you are not happy with it contact the editor of the category and get it changed. Else this discription will be used in SERPS.

Cheers

David

multilingual
8th February 2006, 17:53
Thanks, I will take a look.

BTW I never said that all free directories were link farms, but in my opinion many of them are a bit dodgy.

JB

Tin
8th February 2006, 18:45
Multilingual wrote
Does anyone know a Dmoz editor that would like a brown envelope full of tenners?

Apparently it seems that getting into DMOZ rapidly does indeed boil down to tenners in some situations. If I can dig out the link I had in this respect I'll post it here, it makes an interesting read. :-)

DarrenC
8th February 2006, 18:46
Directories are a waste of time and money in my opinion. I can think of three directories where I have paid for submission - high PR sites, search engine friendly, and each one has been dropped from Google.

Rather than wasting time submitting your site to directories, write a number of interesting, topical articles and submit them to the large number of article sites out there.

Also, reciprocal links are not effective as they once was, so providing unique content, is the way forward IMO.

Darren

Dynamic-Xchange
8th February 2006, 19:32
I've been using LinksManager (http://linksmanager.com/cgi-bin/welcome.cgi?dynamicxchange) for some time now and they provide a brilliant service. You should check them out.

mattk
9th February 2006, 09:20
Darren is right, article submission is an excellent way of building one-way inbound links. However, just like directories the law of diminishing returns applies. There are many good article sites that are highly regarded and will provide a valuable link to your site, there are lots of mediocre sites and many very small sites that may or may not be of benefit.

Here is a link that lists around 200 article submission sites:

http://forums.seochat.com/google-optimization-7/essential-google-optomisation-56410.html?pp=15

Article submission takes a long time though, as alot of sites require registration and many have different T&C - for example some sites allow links within articles and some don't.