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becbec1982
5th May 2010, 15:11
Hi,

I left my last job in July 2009 and joined my partner as a director in our business. I set the company up for PAYE, but neither of us have drawn a salary from the company as yet, so as an employer, I understand that I just need to declare that there is no P35 to file?
On the personal side, I received a P45 when I left my last job, but since I was not intending to draw any salary I did not send off the new employer part of the P45 yet. Since I have always worked for a company who did payroll, I have always received my P60 and not had to worry about anything. Doing it myself is pretty confusing and I am not sure where to start! Do I have to file a self assessment tax return for myself and now register myself as an employee (I want to start drawing a salary soon)?
Can anybody offer advice please?

Thanks!

elainec100@cheapaccounting
5th May 2010, 15:27
If this is a limited company then I would suggest getting an accountant on board to work though this with you.

File a nil P35 here:

https://online.hmrc.gov.uk/shortforms/form/P35NilEmployer?dept-name=&sub-dept-name=&location=1&origin=http://www.hmrc.gov.uk

becbec1982
5th May 2010, 15:31
Thanks for the reply.Yes, it is a limited company, but as we are small and still trying to establish ourselves I am attempting to look after the finances. I am managing most things, but it can be tricky when you dont know where to start.
Can you recommend what I should do about my personal situation?

Thanks for your help!

elainec100@cheapaccounting
5th May 2010, 15:35
Go on the free HMRc course on payroll here:

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/bst/advice-team-events/work1.htm

As regards the company with respect are you sure about doing it yourself.

For a limited company you will need to complete the following:-

An Annual Return

This is a snap shot of information about the Company at a point in time eg. who are the shareholders, directors etc. This if often confused with the accounts but is very different.
This must be filed at Companies House along with a fee of £15 if electronic or £30 if paper.

Annual Accounts

Although Companies House only require an abbreviated set of accounts to be filed, which look easy to prepare, HMRC do require a full set of accounts including a detailed profit and loss account and directors report.
Companies House and HMRC are very different government departments and do not work together. So do not assume that just because you have filed some with one of them, the other gets it as well.

CT 600 Corporation Tax Return

Along with the full set of accounts, HMRC will require a CT 600 to be completed.
This is not a straight forward form and, unless you have experience, it is best left to professionals to complete.

Annual Self Assessment

Regardless of how much they earn, each director of the Company may have to complete a self assessment which should show all of their income from every source, not just from the company.

Annual Employer Returns

Any business which employs staff has a number of reporting requirements eg. P35, P14, P11D etc.

Quarterly VAT Returns

Any business, not just companies, whose turnover exceeds VAT threshold in the previous 12 months has to register and account for VAT. The biggest mistake made here is assuming that the need to register relates to the accounting year rather than the previous 12 months from the current date.
Registering for VAT means the completion of a quarterly VAT return. This is due at the end of the month following the quarter end date. So it is essential that the accounts are kept up to date so that this can be completed on time.

Late filing

Late filing of any of the above returns will result in a fine, penalties and interest. In the case of your accounts you can be fined by both Companies House and HMRC. The fines start at £100 and increase from there up to the possibility of a criminal conviction for significant late filing of documents.