Why won't the largest cycling event in the world cooperate with charity,

[murlev]

like the London Marathon does?

Should the least charitable people of Canada and the USA benefit from the good will of others?

I am posting this in the hope that many of the viewers would like to see several million pounds raised for medical research, hospitals and other worthy causes.

The Tour de l'Ile de Montreal is the largest cycling event in the world. It takes place in Quebec, the worst area by far, for both charitable giving/volunteerism north of Mexico.

The event cost the taxpayers of Montreal $650,000 in 2009. It inconvenienced, tens if not hundreds of thousands of people, hurt retailers and did zip for tourism.

We can live with all that.

What we can not live with is that thousands of similar events cooperate with charity, while Velo Quebec, the organizer of this event won't!

The Mayor of Montreal (Gerald Tremblay) promised to do something positive about the situation eight years ago. He failed to do as he pledged.

He was asked two months ago to set up the Mayor of Montreal Charity Challenge and invite the event's participants to raise $$ directly for the charities of the participants' choice. He promised to phone the next day. He again failed to do as he had pledged.

If you would like to see more $$ raised for medical research and other worthwhile things in the worst area for charitable giving/volunteerism by far in Canada and the USA, please send a copy of this post to Mayor Tremblay.

Please Google City of Montreal to send the mayor a message. I can not put up a url here yet.



Thank you,

Murray Levine
Founder
Philanthropic Athletes Foundation (Well over $2 billion raised through non-fund-raising athletic events)

[Dawg]

I'm not sure just how much of a frenzy you will whip up on a UK business forum about lots of Canadians on Bikes.

I'd imagine that support for charity from members here will be directed to UK charities, and the UK based international organizations, not hospitals and other 'worthy causes' in one of the richest countries in the world, Canada.

And, as a passing thought, why can't you raise money for charity without the endorsement of the organizers? As one of our politicians once said, "Get on yer bike".

[sirearl]

Now if you had said you were raising money for the poor and the starving in the world.

You may have got more interest from my dyed in the wool bleeding heart.

Earl

[murlev]

Hi Dawg,

The idea is to have the people in the Montreal event raising $$ for whatever they choose.

Some of them will raise funds for medical research and that means that the people in the UK will ultimately benefit, as will those in Quebec, Japan, etc.

People can enter the event and raise $$ BUT far more $$ is raised when an invitation is made to the people to raise $$$.

As your life is at stake, I want the 40,000 participants invited to raise $$.

Please write to Montreal's mayor and ask him why the participants of the London Marathon are invited to raise $$ for wortyy causes and not those of Le Tour de l'Ile de Montreal.

Thanks!

[murlev]

Now if you had said you were raising money for the poor and the starving in the world.

You may have got more interest from my dyed in the wool bleeding heart.

Earl

In 1989 I had a fundraising idea. The concept was nominated for the Ernest C. Manning Principal Award ($100,000)

In 1993 the London Marathon began to use my concept. In 1998 I was advised how much the participants raised, that chose to raise funds. I was also advised that the event became the most successful annual fundraising event in the world.

My concept calls for the participants of running, cycling, x-c skiing, triathlon and similar events to be invited to raise $$ directly for the charitties of their choice. Soooooooooooooooo people can and have raised $$ for the less fortunate. I hope that in Montreal, one day that they will follow the example of the London Marathon because I think that the people of Montreal should follow the fine example set by the Londoners/Brits (My wife hails from just south of London.)

So please write to the Mayor of Montreal and tell him what you feel.

Thank you!

M

[Gillie]

Hi Dawg,

The idea is to have the people in the Montreal event raising $$ for whatever they choose.

Some of them will raise funds for medical research and that means that the people in the UK will ultimately benefit, as will those in Quebec, Japan, etc.

People can enter the event and raise $$ BUT far more $$ is raised when an invitation is made to the people to raise $$$.

As your life is at stake, I want the 40,000 participants invited to raise $$.

Please write to Montreal's mayor and ask him why the participants of the London Marathon are invited to raise $$ for wortyy causes and not those of Le Tour de l'Ile de Montreal.

Thanks!

And you think the Mayor will pay attention to people from the UK asking him that?

We aint the ones who vote him in!!

[murlev]

And you think the Mayor will pay attention to people from the UK asking him that?

We aint the ones who vote him in!!

And how do you think the Mayor of Montreal will feel when the word spreads around the world that his cith has the least charitable people north of Mexico and that when he was asked to get off of his rear end and do something, he continually misrepresented himself?

The people who voted him in knew exactly what they were getting. Unfortunately there was not much of a choice. He was the "best" of a bad lot.:)

[Gillie]

If you feel that strongly get the newspapers involved and do it that way!

Yeah, four letters from the UK will really put the cat amongst the pigeons!

[murlev]

If you feel that strongly get the newspapers involved and do it that way!

Yeah, four letters from the UK will really put the cat amongst the pigeons!

Hi Gillie,

I have to have 15 posts here before I can provide a link to my blog.

This situation has been in the newspapers likely around 50 times. It has also been on the radio perhaps 10 times.

There is a rule of thumb among pols that for every letter received 100 did not write. When I was in the UK three yrs ago I was greatly impressed with what I saw compared to what I see on this side of the Atlantic.

On a scale of 1-10 the UK appears to be #1, the US #2 Canada #5 and Quebec does not make the list.

Cheers,

M

[papverpoppies]

And how do you think the Mayor of Montreal will feel when the word spreads around the world that his cith has the least charitable people north of Mexico and that when he was asked to get off of his rear end and do something, he continually misrepresented himself?

The people who voted him in knew exactly what they were getting. Unfortunately there was not much of a choice. He was the "best" of a bad lot.:)


If he is like most people in power - he will not give a stuff.

I was under the impression that most of these power crazed people, always misrepresented themselves, it goes with the terrority/power!

Don't see them loosing any sleep over it!

The 'best' of a bad lot, seems to be the norm, Worldwide.

We are in a mess in this Country - exactly because of that.

I can only suggest you leave the campaigning until he comes up for election again!;)

Poppy

[murlev]

If he is like most people in power - he will not give a stuff.

I was under the impression that most of these power crazed people, always misrepresented themselves, it goes with the terrority/power!

Don't see them loosing any sleep over it!

The 'best' of a bad lot, seems to be the norm, Worldwide.

We are in a mess in this Country - exactly because of that.

I can only suggest you leave the campaigning until he comes up for election again!;)

Poppy

240 yrs ago he was one of the leaders of the American Revolution:

Let them call me rebel, and welcome; I feel no concern from it. For I should suffer the misery of devils, were I to make a whore of my soul.

Tis the business of little minds to shrink, but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death.

On Feb 17, I was threatened with arrest for doing something in front of Montreal City Hall that I had every legal right to do. I expect that Montreal will end up having to pay me $40,000 for infringing on my fundamental rights as guaranteed by both the Canadian and Quebec Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

On March 1 I went to ask a question at a borough council meeting and was refused the legal right to do so. The Borough Mayor can be impeached for breaking the law if she continues to do so.

Tomorrow night is the next borough council meeting. I will pass flyers out to all in attendance. Upon my shirt there will be wording that the borough mayor will not appreciate. My hope is that she will ask security to remove me from the room before the meeting commences. If that happens she would be infringing on my fundamental rights under both the Canadian and Quebec Charters and I get to sue! :)

Politicians are not used to the tactics. They over-react and get into trouble, and that brings more newspaper articles.

Incidentally, any $$$ that I am awarded by the Human Rights Tribunal after the victory meal goes to charity.

Am I having fun? Do the politicians cringe when they see me or hear me?

I respond in the affirmative. For the type of self-serving crap that many of them are, I am their just reward.;);):D:D

[roofing solutions]

pm me a link to your blog please, sounds interesting.

[Atilla]

The people who voted him in knew exactly what they were getting. Unfortunately there was not much of a choice. He was the "best" of a bad lot.:)
A bit like here usually then
Apathy, who gives a s**t

[papverpoppies]

240 yrs ago he was one of the leaders of the American Revolution:

Let them call me rebel, and welcome; I feel no concern from it. For I should suffer the misery of devils, were I to make a whore of my soul.

Tis the business of little minds to shrink, but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death.

On Feb 17, I was threatened with arrest for doing something in front of Montreal City Hall that I had every legal right to do. I expect that Montreal will end up having to pay me $40,000 for infringing on my fundamental rights as guaranteed by both the Canadian and Quebec Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

On March 1 I went to ask a question at a borough council meeting and was refused the legal right to do so. The Borough Mayor can be impeached for breaking the law if she continues to do so.

Tomorrow night is the next borough council meeting. I will pass flyers out to all in attendance. Upon my shirt there will be wording that the borough mayor will not appreciate. My hope is that she will ask security to remove me from the room before the meeting commences. If that happens she would be infringing on my fundamental rights under both the Canadian and Quebec Charters and I get to sue! :)

Politicians are not used to the tactics. They over-react and get into trouble, and that brings more newspaper articles.

Incidentally, any $$$ that I am awarded by the Human Rights Tribunal after the victory meal goes to charity.

Am I having fun? Do the politicians cringe when they see me or hear me?

I respond in the affirmative. For the type of self-serving crap that many of them are, I am their just reward.;);):D:D

Then you are lucky, because you have more freedom to do these things, then we do here in the UK, so I am not sure why you want our help!

Freedom of speech is becoming as rare as hens teeth here, our leaders, make sure of that.

Good luck with your campaign, but this is a business forum, so perhaps target groups more in keeping with your aims.

Poppy

[murlev]

Then you are lucky, because you have more freedom to do these things, then we do here in the UK, so I am not sure why you want our help!

Freedom of speech is becoming as rare as hens teeth here, our leaders, make sure of that.

Good luck with your campaign, but this is a business forum, so perhaps target groups more in keeping with your aims.

Poppy

I need the help of the Brits as everyone here is too complacent. As far as our charter, it was repatriated from the UK 30 yrs ago. I imagine that some of the fundamental rights came from the UK. Hey! If you do not use it, you lose it. Here is your chance to voice your political conviction with impunity. I doubt that the UK deports its citizens to Canada for telling Canadian politicians to do what it in the best interest of humanity.

Cheers,

M

[murlev]

pm me a link to your blog please, sounds interesting.

Google murray making a difference montreal wordpress

Enjoy it and send your friends:)

[murlev]

A bit like here usually then
Apathy, who gives a s**t

One candidate from the election believed that 9/11 was a CIA plot and the other wants Quebec to separate from Canada, but won't allow Montreal to separate from Quebec!

[Dawg]

Why on earth are we bothering with the minutiae of Canadian politics? And how did we leap from charidee-on bikes to freedom of speech?

Jolly good, you can raise the profile of your pet cause by being an activist/pain in the bum. In Montreal.

I think you should get on with it. Perhaps with less inference that the old colonial power can or should help, (likely to be resented by the Quebecois, no?), and with fewer repeated references to the fact that, whilst mean as hell, you still give more than those horrid poor people in Mexico. Who are poor. A lot poorer than rich Canadians, which might be why they give less. Enough already.

Hospitals in Canada I can live without, (or pay my way). Medical research is far more effective done by BigPharma, not charity. And most other charities helped will be local to Montreal, and perhaps Canada. Which, as I said is rich enough to look after itself, and grown up enough not to be told who to elect or how.

I'm sure the mayors of European cities would treat solicitations from Quebecois with the due care afforded bad junk mail, and can't see that not being true of the Canadian mayor in the reverse situation.

[sirearl]

I need the help of the Brits as everyone here is too complacent.

M

And you don't think the British are ,if you can find one.?:eek:

Earl

[Atilla]

One candidate from the election believed that 9/11 was a CIA plot and the other wants Quebec to separate from Canada, but won't allow Montreal to separate from Quebec!

Looks like someone's been on the Stella again. :eek:

[papverpoppies]

Why on earth are we bothering with the minutiae of Canadian politics? And how did we leap from charidee-on bikes to freedom of speech?

Jolly good, you can raise the profile of your pet cause by being an activist/pain in the bum. In Montreal.

I think you should get on with it. Perhaps with less inference that the old colonial power can or should help, (likely to be resented by the Quebecois, no?), and with fewer repeated references to the fact that, whilst mean as hell, you still give more than those horrid poor people in Mexico. Who are poor. A lot poorer than rich Canadians, which might be why they give less. Enough already.

Hospitals in Canada I can live without, (or pay my way). Medical research is far more effective done by BigPharma, not charity. And most other charities helped will be local to Montreal, and perhaps Canada. Which, as I said is rich enough to look after itself, and grown up enough not to be told who to elect or how.

I'm sure the mayors of European cities would treat solicitations from Quebecois with the due care afforded bad junk mail, and can't see that not being true of the Canadian mayor in the reverse situation.

Well, that's blown it.:mad:

I had just got my bike out of the barn pumped up the tyres, and was going to ask for free lodgings/transport whilst I competed in the race - solidarity and all that;)

I wonder what the Canadian mayor looks like in reverse?

Poppy

[papverpoppies]

Looks like someone's been on the Stella again. :eek:


Poor Stella...she sure does have a rough ride.:D

Poppy

[Atilla]

Poor Stella...she sure does have a rough ride.:D

Poppy
Not called wifebeater without reason you know. :rolleyes:

[murlev]

Nuts! I think that you are correct.

[murlev]

Why on earth are we bothering with the minutiae of Canadian politics? And how did we leap from charidee-on bikes to freedom of speech?

Jolly good, you can raise the profile of your pet cause by being an activist/pain in the bum. In Montreal.

I think you should get on with it. Perhaps with less inference that the old colonial power can or should help, (likely to be resented by the Quebecois, no?), and with fewer repeated references to the fact that, whilst mean as hell, you still give more than those horrid poor people in Mexico. Who are poor. A lot poorer than rich Canadians, which might be why they give less. Enough already.

Hospitals in Canada I can live without, (or pay my way). Medical research is far more effective done by BigPharma, not charity. And most other charities helped will be local to Montreal, and perhaps Canada. Which, as I said is rich enough to look after itself, and grown up enough not to be told who to elect or how.

I'm sure the mayors of European cities would treat solicitations from Quebecois with the due care afforded bad junk mail, and can't see that not being true of the Canadian mayor in the reverse situation.

In 25% of the time that it took to write what you did above, you could have written to the mayor from your yahoo.com acct. and accomplished something that would do some good. :)

When was the last time that a scientist employed by a pharma firm received the Nobel prize (and Obama is not yet on the take from pharma firms)?

[Dawg]

In 25% of the time that it took to write what you did above, you could have written to the mayor from your yahoo.com acct. and accomplished something that would do some good. :)

When was the last time that a scientist employed by a pharma firm received the Nobel prize (and Obama is not yet on the take from pharma firms)?

Lets whip through that bit of sanctimonious drivel shall we?

25% of the time? Ineffective guesswork to prove a spurious point.
Yahoo.com account? I'm don't have one.
Do some good? It would do nothing except waste resources, which I'm sure you, with your goody two shoes, special needs carbon footprint would driz about.
WTF has winning a Nobel Prize got to do with it? And, I don't know, (and can't be arsed to research it), when was the last time a scientist employed by a pharma firm received the Nobel prize? Last year? 2007? Maybe It's not given to people who work in large companies, and the question is like, ' when was the last time the Space shuttle beat Tiger Woods'?

Pah, Feh and patooi.

[murlev]

Hey Dawg,

In spite of individuals such as yourself my ideas bring a really nice amount of $$ to charities every year. It is too bad that you can not find the time to do as I ask as the amount raised would simply increase.

The president of a major foundation once told me that I am holding up a mirror to society and that society does not like what they see.

Please do some reflection and in a week or a month, take a look into a mirror.

nb. The Nobel Prize is given for achievement (except in the case of Obama) so a recipient could be employed by Pfizer, etc. but I never heard of one from private industry receiving the Nobel Prize for anything science related (though I stand to be corrected).

[Dawg]

Hey Dawg,

In spite of individuals such as yourself my ideas bring a really nice amount of $$ to charities every year. It is too bad that you can not find the time to do as I ask as the amount raised would bring more.

The president of a major foundation once told me that I am holding up a mirror to society and that society does not like what they see.

Please do some reflection and in a week or a month, take a look into a mirror.

Yeah yadayadayada. I'm the bad guy. How much money would the charities get if it wasn't for annoying, free rider people like you? About 10% more? 15%?

Keep on believing in easy cliche from 'president of a major foundation', and I'm sure you'll be a happy, fuzzy little bunny.

Meanwhile I'll keep on giving directly to charities in the UK which I support and not interfering in other peoples lives on the behest of some self important Canadian sfb who probably makes his living off the back of the poverty business. Yay for you big boy.

My reflection is fine, as are the reflections of a great many who disagree with your increasingly pompous, sanctimonious up-your-own-douche-canal attitudes.

[Sharpy]

I know of lots of corporations and events that don't entertain charities, for the pure and simple fact that they do not wish to be seen to favour one cause or charity over another.

Sounds ridiculous, but decisions have been made based on that before.

[murlev]

Yeah yadayadayada. I'm the bad guy. How much money would the charities get if it wasn't for annoying, free rider people like you? About 10% more? 15%?

Keep on believing in easy cliche from 'president of a major foundation', and I'm sure you'll be a happy, fuzzy little bunny.

Meanwhile I'll keep on giving directly to charities in the UK which I support and not interfering in other peoples lives on the behest of some self important Canadian sfb who probably makes his living off the back of the poverty business. Yay for you big boy.

My reflection is fine, as are the reflections of a great many who disagree with your increasingly pompous, sanctimonious up-your-own-douche-canal attitudes.

I have been absolutely shattered by the above but will take into consideration that care for the mentally ill, is grossly underfunded in the UK.

I still welcome all the Brits to write to Montreal Mayor Gerald Tremblay and encourage him to invite the participants of the largest cycling event in the world (Le Tour de l'Ile de Montreal) to raise funds directly for the charities of the participants' choice.

Someone/anyone; please inform Dawg that I am a volunteer and that I relish bringing out both the best, and the worst, in people.:)

In order to post URLs to other sites one must have made 15 + posts so at=# and . = ,in the following email address for the Mayor maire#ville,montreal,qc,ca

[murlev]

I know of lots of corporations and events that don't entertain charities, for the pure and simple fact that they do not wish to be seen to favour one cause or charity over another.

Sounds ridiculous, but decisions have been made based on that before.

In 1989, when I came up with the concept of inviting the participants of existing non-fundraising running, cycling, x-c ski, triathlon and other events to raise funds directly for the charities of the participants' choice, I was thinking that more in such events would raise funds, but then realized that the concept would allow events to essentially say "yes" to all charities, and "no" to none.

The same would obviously apply to corporations if they encouraged the masses to raise $$$ directly for any existing charity that the individuals' chose.

The excuse of favouritism thankfully has been removed.