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chrisedge
11th January 2006, 17:32
type into google ,biggest advertising and guess who is there,lol

bwglaw
11th January 2006, 17:40
'Biggest' is hardly a keyword people will use to search. Should be 'internet advertising'

You want neg vibes?... your site has a PR of 0 ... howzat?

chrisedge
11th January 2006, 17:43
hi all i just got rather excited thats all, just humour me, lol hope everyone has been having a good day.

chris

bwglaw
11th January 2006, 17:46
I know... I was just joking.

If you want to make a go of it get it optimized for fast upload and focus on 'internet advertising' as your main key word/phrase. Why not seek advice from the marketing/pr forum where I have sought advice on SEO

JustOneUK
11th January 2006, 18:08
type into google, biggest advertising and guess who is there,lol
I only see you there for google.co.uk, you don't feature where I search.
I will have to try and target internet advertising (http://www.justoneuk.com/) from now on, there are only 229,000,000 results, wish me luck, see you in 50 years :)
My biggest result so far (numberwise) is no#2 on yahoo for 137,000,000 results

It's always good to be first for something, so well done.

mattk
11th January 2006, 18:31
Number of daily searches for "biggest advertising"...

...computer says less than 10.

Enigma121
11th January 2006, 18:49
Alright then, while we are at it

try ebusiness solutions uk on uk.msn.com

We aren't number one, but our competitors are spending a small fortune on directory entries and PPC advertising, while our budget remains far more modest.

Even so it's nice to be on the first page of the results, most people struggle to get that far.

JustOneUK
11th January 2006, 20:53
you should be able to get #1 without the 'uk' part, there is less than 1 million results.

Enigma121
11th January 2006, 21:08
you should be able to get #1 without the 'uk' part, there is less than 1 million results.

Site at #1 for ebusiness solutions has around 30,000 backlinks. It's possible to build that many, but you've got to look at cost / benefit for this level of work. We also have client work to think about, so are working on a more gradual rise.

Of course if there is anyone able to offer some good quality bulk link sales that might be worth consideration.

The other issue is the traffic level on that term. We are a small firm so something in the region of 18,000 enquiries a month would be a bit excessive anyway.

free0870numbers.co.uk
13th January 2006, 15:09
I will humour you... welldone. I know how hard it is to get anywhere on search engines.

However Hands on group is right. Who will search for it.

If your main keywords are going to be impossible to get to the top try some more precise terms.

Real World Hypnotherapy
13th January 2006, 16:17
Chris

Well done on getting to the top but you really don't have to PM me about things like this. I read everything in the forum and i get enough PMs as it is without people advertising to me.

If it is something that is just for me then PM me, if it is genreal then just stick it in the forum.

Cheers

Matt

Admiral Collections
13th January 2006, 16:20
without people advertising to me.


Matt

Bit rich Matt don't you think? I feel subjected to your advertising every time you post

Cheers

Nic :wink:

Real World Hypnotherapy
13th January 2006, 16:33
Yes but in the forums, I do not send people PMs about it. It is different.

Matt

confused
13th January 2006, 16:34
type into google ,biggest advertising and guess who is there,lol
theres allsorts there, top couple being BBC sites, I cant see your site anywhere.

CALV

Admiral Collections
13th January 2006, 16:36
I just think you were nasty Matt.

The message you sent on here could have been PM'd. A polite don't PM me again would have been suffice. If you want to be of service and invite people to PM you all the time you are just asking for spam PM's. Your own fault.

Nic :wink:

Real World Hypnotherapy
13th January 2006, 16:40
Nic

I did not mean it in a nasty way at all and sorry if you read it like that.

Chris, please don't take it in a bad way, it was certainly not intended to be like that.

Matt, MK Printing

bwglaw
13th January 2006, 17:22
Nic - on this occasion I think Matt is right. I have just got a PM from the very same person saying "AFFILIATE LINKS"

He is clearly not respecting us and showing face, and when he does show face he apologises then disappears and spams again.

Chris, if I get one more or if someone else here complains I will issue a 'take down notice' upon your host and have the site removed entirely and the same notice will be served at ICANN for the domain to be detagged. This is not to mention a complaint being issued to Trading Standards.

If anyone wants to advertise, they will contact you. You have been given a final opportunity to refrain from spamming.

confused
13th January 2006, 17:24
if I get one more or if someone else here complains I will issue a 'take down notice' upon your host and have the site removed entirely and the same notice will be served at ICANN for the domain to be detagged. This is not to mention a complaint being issued to Trading Standards
Oh dear, then we shall all have to employ Nic to get our £10's back ;)

JustOneUK
13th January 2006, 17:26
Chris, if I get one more or if someone else here complains I will issue a 'take down notice' upon your host and have the site removed entirely and the same notice will be served at ICANN for the domain to be detagged. This is not to mention a complaint being issued to Trading Standards.

If anyone wants to advertise, they will contact you. You have been given a final opportunity to refrain from spamming.

That's very unfriendly for a few PM's ?
"Chris stop PM'ing everyone all the time" would have sufficed.

bwglaw
13th January 2006, 17:28
JustOneUK

Just wait until you get a spam!....It is becoming to the point where friends part!

Admiral Collections
13th January 2006, 17:32
Jon

1. I certainly wasn't spammed by Chris.

2. I think I have a right to my opinion as far as Matts postings are concerned.

Also, I think it's pretty poor that someone makes someone else look like a complete idiot on the forum. It's not fair and this forum is getting way too cliquey, it's turning into an old boys club.

Like I said originally, take your own personal PM issues up on your own. I know if someone spammed me I would in no uncertain terms be able to sort it. Hence why I very rarely get it.


Nic :wink:

chrisedge
13th January 2006, 17:33
i am working hard and WILL stop with the pm`s. i will concentrate on building good honest traffic and the site seen so that it justifies your money.

Real World Hypnotherapy
13th January 2006, 17:38
Chris

The reason why I mentioned it in the public forum because I thought that other people would also be getting them too. If you just stop sending them then all is well and it will soon be forgotten.

I think it went a little too far this thread, don't take it to heart and I hope that your business does well. Please stick about and continue to make posts.

Matt

chrisedge
13th January 2006, 17:41
It was silly and a mistake that i have learned from, i will commit to driving this site forward, getting your ads shown more and more, NOT upseting forum users with silly requests, and being a little more open.

bwglaw
13th January 2006, 17:42
Jon

1. I certainly wasn't spammed by Chris.

2. I think I have a right to my opinion as far as Matts postings are concerned.

Also, I think it's pretty poor that someone makes someone else look like a complete idiot on the forum. It's not fair and this forum is getting way too cliquey, it's turning into an old boys club.

Like I said originally, take your own personal PM issues up on your own. I know if someone spammed me I would in no uncertain terms be able to sort it. Hence why I very rarely get it.

Nic :wink:

Nic, don't take it personally. I was not saying you do not have the right to an opinion. I merely stated that it was right because Chris is not listening to everyone else that has complained on here. I have dealt with it personally but whether I want others to know is my choice.

It is hardly an old boys club, we are just trying to prevent spamming here so we all can have enjoyment of this forum. For your information, like many others I have told him not to spam me from the very start but he still chose to do so.

I am sure he has had more than 2 warnings from the Mods and really should be excluded.

MorethanWords
13th January 2006, 18:13
I never gets spams or PMs - am I doing something wrong?! Maybe I'm just not fit enough?!! Joking.

Admiral Collections
13th January 2006, 18:18
I never gets spams or PMs - am I doing something wrong?! Maybe I'm just not fit enough?!! Joking.


I laughed my head off at this. Sooooo funny.

Everyone needs to chill, and again I REPEAT I have a right to my opinion so Jonathan, if I think it appears to be an old boys club then I will see it that way ok?


:wink:

bwglaw
13th January 2006, 18:24
Nic - I respect your opinion, you are entitled to it. A forum is a place to exchange opinions and I will respect others opinions, including my own ;)

It is the end of the matter provided Chris stops spamming people. I just want to read/reply to other posts and not be hassled by issues like this. I get enough of that in my day job!

chrisedge
13th January 2006, 18:28
and lets concentrate on driving a better forum, iNO MORE SPAM!

Admiral Collections
13th January 2006, 18:30
So Chris, what is it you do again?


Nic :wink:

bwglaw
13th January 2006, 18:33
Graduated in spamology ;)

Admiral Collections
13th January 2006, 18:44
Pathetic!


Nic :wink:

bwglaw
13th January 2006, 18:47
That was a joke Nic...take a chill pill...

Enigma121
13th January 2006, 19:44
I see that this thread has picked up the negative vibes that it was always looking for ;-)

Urban Space
13th January 2006, 20:04
Lol, I knew they were out there somewhere :lol:!

Liam

crus
13th January 2006, 20:10
lol,

congrats,

try searching google for BS5, or Bristol Directory, got my eye on the no.1 spot for 'bristol' but thats gonna take some time.

D

DarrenC
13th January 2006, 20:47
Site at #1 for ebusiness solutions has around 30,000 backlinks.

I used to think the same "my competitor has 31,000 links how the hell am I going to out rank them" I quickly learnt its not the quantity of links, but the quality of the link.

Enigma121
13th January 2006, 21:06
Site at #1 for ebusiness solutions has around 30,000 backlinks.

I used to think the same "my competitor has 31,000 links how the hell am I going to out rank them" I quickly learnt its not the quantity of links, but the quality of the link.

That's a fair comment Darren. I've looked at the type of links our competitor has and they aren't massively on topic. The main advantage is cross links from what I assume is their sister site providing legal docs.

I'm confident we will get to where we would like to be, it's just that there isn't an easy way to determine if this is after building 301 links or 30,001. Customer focused work is always our highest priority, as I mentioned, so our own ranking is really a sideline at the moment (so from this point of view we are doing quite well).

Tin
14th January 2006, 08:41
Enigma.
Why the focus on links so much? Yes, inbounds have a role in rankings on any engine but it is only a 'part' role and off-topic links still count as a positive vote but count less than 'related links'. If the seo on a page or sitewide is spot-on then it can do the job with a handful of links, if the market sector is an intensive one then ok, more links are required but links 'per se' aren't everything.
Have you analised your competitors seo (your site says you offer seo so I'm presuming you've done all the ground work) and determined that to better compete it'll solely rely on you obtaining more links (related or otherwise) in order to give them a run for their money?

If you're absolutely sure that the seo on your site matches or betters theirs then yes, look for quality inbounds, otherwise re-work the seo to be more effective in the keyword areas you are targeting.

Ray

fastfences
1st February 2006, 17:23
Here's a negative vibe. Only 21 adverts in 1 month and some of those are by the same advertiser. What's going on with the promotion of the site and the generation of traffic? Despite us getting a 'deal' on UKBF, we remain entitled to a fair product for a fair price.

So how is the 'record' attempt progressing if no-one's joining? Nearly time to ask for a refund, I feel.
Cheers, Nigel

Urban Space
1st February 2006, 19:35
Nigel, remember Junior? :roll:! I think he's gone and run off too... How many people on here bought an ad?

Liam

10 Yetis
2nd February 2006, 13:15
well then, whilst we are bragging... type, Public relations help into google and we appear on page 107 (half way down under the site for animal love). Rah... beat that! :D

c2webdesign
3rd February 2006, 12:46
Well done Andy!!!

Remember keep up the backlinks, keep optimised and adding content and who knows........

One day you may get to page 106 ! :)


I have seen many sites competing with the 30k backlinks with a few hundred - definately quality rather than quantity.


Dean
C2 Web Design
http://www.c2webdesign.co.uk

Web Design | Online Marketing | Search Engine Optimisation

Enigma121
4th February 2006, 11:24
Enigma.
Why the focus on links so much? Yes, inbounds have a role in rankings on any engine but it is only a 'part' role and off-topic links still count as a positive vote but count less than 'related links'. If the seo on a page or sitewide is spot-on then it can do the job with a handful of links, if the market sector is an intensive one then ok, more links are required but links 'per se' aren't everything...


The bottom line is we are in a number of very competitive fields and most of our competitors are also SEO outfits.

Google certainly looks at on page factors, we have attempted to do the same, but the overriding factor at the moment is good quality inbound links, perferably with no reciprocal link outwards. This has been the case since their recent Jagger update.

This in itself is quite hard to achieve, outside of directories there aren't many sites that are prepared to offer a link without a reciprocal link unless you are prepared to pay sizable fees for it.

I accept that quantity of inbound links isn't everything. Quality is... it's vital that you have as many on-topic inbounds as possible from related sites (preferably those with connections to your industry).

In our case we are looking for hosting providers, business consultants, accountants, resellers of WIFI equipment etc, etc. If anyone fits into this category - please PM us or participate in the UKBF link exchange.

Good quality, well placed links drive traffic all by themselves. You don't even need a search engine!

Hope that covers our motivation on this front.

DarrenC
4th February 2006, 18:12
Ok I'm going to create a pixel bloody advertising space website tonight, and make a £million, sorry but why do you all think that sites like this will bring in traffic?

The original pixel guy must be wetting himself laughing at all the people buying pixel ads off him, in 2 months time when its all died down, do you really think these people are going to be getting traffic then?

Darren

Urban Space
4th February 2006, 18:48
The original pixel guy must be wetting himself laughing at all the people buying pixel ads off him

Lol I thought he was being sued? :lol:! Don't give into peer pressure Darren! I'm 'the only virgin in the class' so I should know :lol::lol:!

Liam

ewan
4th February 2006, 19:40
I hate to say it, but to all those that purchased ads on "the worlds biggest advertising space"... I told you so :(