MSN - Great Listing

[MarkPearson]

Has anyone noticed how upto date msn search is becoming.

I am begining to use it more and more, for anything google can not find.

I am thrilled to see that we have managed to get onto the front page of msn search for a great search term 'roses'


http://search.msn.co.uk/results.aspx?q=roses&FORM=MSNH&srch_type=0&cp=65001

This within about 8-9 weeks of being listed.

I know msn and yahoo are not as busy as google, but it will be a while before we are even listed properly on google.

I have noticed quite a bit of traffic coming from this new listing :-)

[clairemackaness]

I got Page 2 with "artist brentwood UK"

When checking Google I gave up after page 20!

Although I did appear in the text from some sites that link to me from about page 3 so recipricol linking is obviously a good thing!

[DuaneJackson]

I don't see y ou there Mark.

MSN changes very quickly.

We were #1 for Small Business Accounting software until a few weeks ago when we were #3. Now no where to be seen (except the overture ad).

We'll be back up to #1 within a few weeks though I suspect.

[MarkPearson]

Hi Duane

We are the last listing on the page (may have changed like you said.

The fact that we are on the 1st page for a massive keyword (roses) is great for us traffic wise.

This is within 8 weeks or so, so can be worked upon.

[Rob Holmes]

We're number 1 and 2 for Direct admin Dedicated Servers

#5 and 6 for Direct Admin Web Hosting

#1 for direct admin reseller hosting

#1 for autoresponder uk

Nice.

Rob

[Coding Monkey]

I see him at the bottom, Duane.

I think MSN is a very good search engine. I find Yahoo/MSN are very efficient at updating and therefore you can test many SEO techniques to see whether they work.

12,000 people took a blind test and found that 60% of people actually found MSN or Yahoo to be more relevant than Google.

[MarkPearson]

The most important thing is that our placements bring us traffic :-)

We are 9th out of 15.5 million other sites/pages.

Not super, but its a start :-) and a good start

[Tin]

Hi Mark

MSN is very fast at indexing pages but it can easily throw you out as quick as you came in. You'll need to do a load of work if you want to appear anywhere near page 1 of Google for the same search term and page 1 is defo what you need for a business in the UK.
MSN although quite volatile a lot of the time can often give accurate search results but the trouble is that Google's the UK's primary engine of choice (not so much in the USA though as there's more of an even split across the water).
Keep an eye on your listing on MSN, I think you may find you drop down in the very near future once your listing settles. You need your listing to stabilise before you can consider what your best line of approach is in terms of building upon that.
Don't expect a quick show in Yahoo as Yahoo is notoriously slow at doing anything in terms of finding new pages/indexing them or even indexing whole sites whether you ping them or not.
I suggest you focus all your attention on Google serps as that's where the money is at the end of the day.

Good luck

Ray
:)

[easyasit]

to be honest
MSN now lists my website. google doesn;t yet for reasons i have been advised of.
but i do think google needs to start sorting out its act or msn will take over. If you guys are saying what ur saying now, then what are the rest of the pop thinking?

Al

[Mwebb]

guys andgirls,

a great free resource is www.marketleap.com you can do link popularity and keyword saturation checks on your domain for all the top search engines.
give it a go

Michael

[Magsite]

Got a pretty good msn fir my www.magsite.co.uk

magazine trials
http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=magazine+trials&FORM=QBRE

I'm at 3rd!

Lisa

[mustang]

I too have seen great results on MSN.

We made it to Pos 1 for 'Small Business Marketing'

http://search.msn.co.uk/results.aspx?q=Small+Business+Marketing&FORM=MSNH&srch_type=0&cp=65001

[Quan]

MSN updates at an acelerating rate. When I look at the link popularity checker, msn always holds the most by a landslide. I guess they are tring to catch up and beat google.

[Ian J]

Most of my websites are at the top of MSN for their respective keywords but unfortunately MSN seem to have moved to using DMOZ descriptions so instead of using my own meta descriptions which I think are cleverly worded sales pitches they are using the flat and boring descriptions supplied by DMOZ.

I have two sites that I haven't submitted to DMOZ for just that reason.

[duenna]

we do well for "computer support"
"pc help" both top in MSN.

The .::dmscs::. website is only six months old so not expecting major listings in Google, but we get traffic from Google on marginal keywords to do with our database.

[Magsite]

Ah - I'm now 3rd on page 2 for the keywords

magazine trials
http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=magazine+trials&FORM=QBRE

Lisa