bought email list what now?

[G. Lasagne]

I bought an opt in email list off a member on the forum, im not saying theres anything wrong with the list, im sure theres not, but i have bought over 27,000, and mailchimp and the over servers wont touch them, which i can now appreciate, looking in to it some more:redface:.

I'm not after the rights and wrongs of buying email lists, just some advice on what to do with this list of mine.

I dont want to just delete them, and i would like to send a few emails to the list, just to see if it will work.

I have my own email list of customers which is only a few hundred, which i will keep seperate.

Any ideas i would appreciate it greatly, if anyone wants to go that extra mile and set up a campaign for me using whatever method (legal of course) then i would be happy to give that person a copy of the data free of charge, :D

[maxine]

Hmmm, the list on it's own isn't worth anything in my opinion without it being an opted in list. Thats because of the risk of being reported as spam/junk and being blacklisted after sending out emails.

We get people all the time ask us to take their lists, phone them to obtain specific permission to email relating to a particular product or service or supplier. We keep notes of who we have spoken to on what day/time etc.

Your own list of your past customers is fine as you have done work for them in the past. If you want me to do a test campaign or small campaign on that then ping it over to me with what you want to say.

:)

[G. Lasagne]

Hmmm, the list on it's own isn't worth anything in my opinion without it being an opted in list. Thats because of the risk of being reported as spam/junk and being blacklisted after sending out emails.

We get people all the time ask us to take their lists, phone them to obtain specific permission to email relating to a particular product or service or supplier. We keep notes of who we have spoken to on what day/time etc.

Your own list of your past customers is fine as you have done work for them in the past. If you want me to do a test campaign or small campaign on that then ping it over to me with what you want to say.

:)

Hi Max, thanks very much, i may do that once i get them all down in one place.

To be totally honest im happy to take the risk, the list is opt in, just not opted in via my site.

If for arguments sake a law came out saying there was no such thing as spam, how would you reccomend sending the list,:)

what about something like this http://www.emailaddressmanager.com/email-marketing/bulk-email-software.html

If i did get done for spam what would happen, would they just cancel my outlook account?, should i then send it from my hotmail account?

Thanks max, and thanks for the list (business) you sent the other day, i owe you one:)

[Snippa]

You can try Group Mail. I've used the free version for years (the old one) which is much better than the newer one, I believe. It lets you send messages as individual emails. And I don't think the software costs that much. May be a better option than mailchimp.

[Scott-CopyandDesign]

What type of people are in the list? Is it opt-in? They're useless for your business unless they're from Newcastle and interested in plumbing.

[G. Lasagne]

What type of people are in the list? Is it opt-in? They're useless for your business unless they're from Newcastle and interested in plumbing.

there all from newcastle, and there opt in, im not sure if there interested in plumbing, but they own houses so therefore will have gas appliances and therefore may need me::)

[G. Lasagne]

You can try Group Mail. I've used the free version for years (the old one) which is much better than the newer one, I believe. It lets you send messages as individual emails. And I don't think the software costs that much. May be a better option than mailchimp.

Thanks snippa i will check it out

[TomStevens]

Most ESPs will let you send if you proceed your email message with a touchpoint that basically asks the recipient to "re-opt-in" to recieve messages from you.

[G. Lasagne]

Most ESPs will let you send if you proceed your email message with a touchpoint that basically asks the recipient to "re-opt-in" to recieve messages from you.

I will try them thanks, i know mailchimp wont though.

Dave

[AdForte]

If you will send e-mails you need to protect your business, suggest to:
1) buy another secondary domain name
2) create small web site with one page
3) this web site redirect to your main web site
4) advertise your secondary domain (send e-mails)
5) for secondary domain name create email address
6) you can also can use new telephone number, can use mobile phone

If you do everything correctly e-mail marketing will be very effective.

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SMS Marketing - Bulk sms

[bdw]

the list is opt in, just not opted in via my site.

Then it's not opt in. Don't do it.

I regularly report people (local or otherwise) who spam me. I am sure I am not alone. there will be a few within that 27K who will report you.

If i did get done for spam what would happen, would they just cancel my outlook account?
Your Outlook account has nothing to do with your provider. It's your hosting and email accounts that are at risk.

should i then send it from my hotmail account?

Yes, if you want to lose this too. I always report spam from hotmail and Gmail.

Sorry if this sounds harsh but spammers really do deserve all they get.

[bdw]

If you will send e-mails you need to protect your business...

Adforte what you have posted is a guide for spammers, is it not?
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[fisicx]

Dave,

What do you do with the flyers that come through your door? What do you do with the emails for gentleman's products? What do you think the 27,000 recipients are going to do with an unslocitied email from you?

Even a full opt-in email list still requires that you have an unsubscribe link so that the recipient can remove themselves from the list.

[G. Lasagne]

I take onboard what everyone has said, and i agree its too risky, so thanks.

What i have done however is to invite all 27,430 to be my friend on facebook, all the ones that accept will then be asked if they want to join my gas angel fan page, i will also do the same on twitter, its better than just deleting them:)

[bdw]

What i have done however is to invite all 27,430 to be my friend on facebook

Wow! Don't be surprised if you end up in jail. :)

[Scott-CopyandDesign]

I take onboard what everyone has said, and i agree its too risky, so thanks.

What i have done however is to invite all 27,430 to be my friend on facebook, all the ones that accept will then be asked if they want to join my gas angel fan page, i will also do the same on twitter, its better than just deleting them:)

Your Facebook account will probably be banned now.

To be honest the list is probably more trouble than it's worth.

[virtuallysorted]

Could you not ask the original list owner (who the people opted in to receive mail from) to send out an email on your behalf with an opt-in link for your own list?

That way people who want to receive info from you transport to the new list with no spam problems. It also means you'll get a better response from them as they are expecting mail from you and are receptive to the offers.

A lot of people believe that lists are intrinsically valuable - they are only valuable if you use them properly!

[Tregeor]

Quite a few of us from the NE on this forum. We should have a competition to see who is the first to post that we've received an invite from G. Lasagne.
Don't worry though I won't report you! It'll make a change from Viagra merchants or my Nigerian friends who want to give me millions of dollars.

[G. Lasagne]

Great idea caroline i might just do that.

I think everyboy is right, i may just have to put this one down to experience and cut my losses, im pxssing against the wind as they say.
I think i will give carolines idea a try and then maybe just bin them.
Facebook seemed ok with my mass friend request, they sent me a message saying that i was requesting friends too quick and to slow down but that was it, im going to stop trying these methods, they are too much of a minefield for us tradesmen

[1weekSEO]

If you will send e-mails you need to protect your business, suggest to:
1) buy another secondary domain name
2) create small web site with one page
3) this web site redirect to your main web site
4) advertise your secondary domain (send e-mails)
5) for secondary domain name create email address
6) you can also can use new telephone number, can use mobile phone

If you do everything correctly e-mail marketing will be very effective.

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SMS Marketing - Bulk sms

That has got to be voted the 'worst advice' post of the day.
What fool would use such cloak and dagger methods?

[G. Lasagne]

Yeah your right, its not worth the risk, im not too bothered about facebook, as its only my personal profile people are joining at the moment.
but i would hate to be know as the spam plumber so im knocking it on the head, thanks guys for making me see sense, another hair brained idea crossed off the list ;)

[Tej]

Yeah your right, its not worth the risk, im not too bothered about facebook, as its only my personal profile people are joining at the moment.
but i would hate to be know as the spam plumber so im knocking it on the head, thanks guys for making me see sense, another hair brained idea crossed off the list ;)

Well done Dave... always works when you think things over and take good advice on board.. the loss on the list is no big deal I guess.. you will make that up. But.. at least your reputation is intact...
Takes a long time to build it.. takes a couple of secs to screw it up.

Good thinking my friend.

[maxine]

You don't need to chuck it away you just need to use it properly as Caroline says.

Why not take a small chunk say of people very local to you, about 200 for a test and call them and ask if you can email them (after TPS checking of course). Once you have the email you can communicate offers/news regularly. Should only take 10 hours and a very straight forward call and you could get a lower telemarketing rate for these types of calls (say £10-15 per hour instead of £20-30 per hour).

Unless I am missing something, whether email lists / twitter / facebook / adverts etc nothing much happens overnight. The results come over a period of time when people have a future need, unless you are lucky and just happen to email/phone when someone's boiler or whatever has packed up :) (but obviously the more calls you make the luckier you can be)

:)

[b2bdata]

I think you will find that for b2b data you do not need opt in. You must give them the oppotunity to unsubscribe.

I send 100,000 emails a week and so far have never had any problems.

[bdw]

send 100,000 emails a week and so far have never had any problems.

Less power to your elbow.

[seobarbershop]

OP - You are trying to say you added 27,000 people on facebook? - is it just me or did anyone else not think the OP has obviously not sat there and searched for TWENTY SEVEN THOUSAND PEOPLE by name? I dont understand how the people who have commented on that remark do not have the comment sense that it's clearly a lie?

[cmcp]

You can invite friends to facebook via email.

[seobarbershop]

If you know their email address..... and FB with not allow 27,000 friend requests? I think after 100 in the first 24hrs you get flagged....