Emailing Lists

[elite123]

Anyone have a list of email addresses which i can use to email our services to ?

Thanks

Anthony

[Rob Holmes]

Hi try www.lbm.co.uk

Rob

[ink4-u]

well i have 5 million here, and i cant send to one of them because aol blocks me everythime i try. they are getting better as an isp but there spam filter is too much! LOL

[MarkPearson]

Hi Ink4-u,

so you have 5 million opt in email addresses?

That's great stuff!

because if they are not opt in and you email them.... I think it would be called spam....?!

[ink4-u]

they are all from optin sources, and its only classed as spam if you dont have a way for people to opt out.

[MarkPearson]

they are all from optin sources, and its only classed as spam if you dont have a way for people to opt out.

Is that true?

I know that you have to make it easy for them to remove themselves from a list.

But I thought the laws are more strick on the opt in process.

It depends on your source of the domains and if they are reputable.

Also for 5 million quality names you would have to pay a small fortune.

My point was made because the first poster of this thread is asking for random people to give him/her email address lists.

I was unsure that this is correct or legal?

Prove me wrong, I am, here to learn too....

[ink4-u]

Revised UK regulations will mean online marketers can send e-mail pitches and SMS messages only to consumers who have agreed beforehand to receive them, except where users are existing customers of a particular company. So, for consumers at least, the UK government is applying the 'opt-in' approach to regulating spam.

Corporations can still be approached 'cold' with email pitches but in these instances emails must have an opt-out clause.


that is a section that is relevant

[MarkPearson]

Great, so we can all email anyone as much as we like...as long as we allow them to opt out.

[mattk]

ink - I'm not sure I agree with your interpretation of the law there. Whilst there is no clear legal definition of what spam is, the general consensus is unsolicted bulk email.

[ink4-u]

Revised UK regulations will mean online marketers can send e-mail pitches and SMS messages only to consumers who have agreed beforehand to receive them, except where users are existing customers of a particular company. So, for consumers at least, the UK government is applying the 'opt-in' approach to regulating spam.

Corporations can still be approached 'cold' with email pitches but in these instances emails must have an opt-out clause.



that isnt mine its taken from a site.

[RSL]

Hi,

I;d also be interested in obtaining any email list or good direct marketing company names.
RSL

[elite123]

So does anyone have any ?

[Mortime Business Software]

After distinguishing between "corporation" and "consumer", it sounds to me like...

"If a consumer is a customer of a company, then that company can send the customer unsolicited emails. Other marketers must have the consumer's prior consent."

"Marketers can only send emails to consumers in general with their prior consent."

"Marketers can send unsolicited email to any company provided they include an 'opt-out' clause in the email."

I am using "corporation" and "company" interchangably here, so my interpretation may be wrong.

On a related matter, it is quite easy to write a program which can automatically download web pages, strip out any email addresses, and send emails to them. Is this illegal?

Dave

[ink4-u]

i think you have it there Dave, :idea:


On a related matter, it is quite easy to write a program which can automatically download web pages, strip out any email addresses, and send emails to them. Is this illegal?

Dave

but not so sure about that i wouldnt say that is legal. :roll:

[Its Yours Online]

Hi

I sell a lot of digital products and ebay has been a good source of customers for me.

Judging by what ive read, can i now add these customers to my mailing list because they have bought from me in the past, as long as they are given the chance to opt out?

I hope so :-)

[Mortime Business Software]

...can i now add these customers to my mailing list because they have bought from me in the past, as long as they are given the chance to opt out?

I hope so :-)

Well that's how I interpret it. But I'm definitely no expert. You would probably be better off asking someone like Jonothan of the HandsOn Group.

Also, if you implement this, I suggest you include the 'opt-out' button/link in each email, and make sure it works with just a single click and a page to say something like...

"Thank you. You are no longer on our mailing list. We really enjoyed your custom and hope you will return sometime because we love you very much. We wish you all the very best for the future, and hope you have an absolutely wonderful life. We don't want to say too much, but you were actually our favourite customer because you're awesome. Don't try to be modest and deny it because it's the truth. Oh dear I think I'm going to cry. Goodbye...bye...sniff. I can't handle this. Please don't leave me...please...or I will have to top myself."

Dave

[mattk]

Revised UK regulations will mean online marketers can send e-mail pitches and SMS messages only to consumers who have agreed beforehand to receive them, except where users are existing customers of a particular company. So, for consumers at least, the UK government is applying the 'opt-in' approach to regulating spam.

Corporations can still be approached 'cold' with email pitches but in these instances emails must have an opt-out clause.


that is a section that is relevant
I stand corrected. Full article (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/12/10/uk_antispam_law_goes_live/).

Even though you're not breaking the law you might fall foul to the T&Cs of your ISP or hosting company. From the T&Cs of my hosting company they define spam as:

"spam" means sending unsolicited and/or bulk emails;

and in the accepted use policy it states:

In particular the Customer agrees not to:
8.1.1 use the Services or the Website in any way to send unsolicited commercial email or "spam", or any similar abuse of the Services;

So it's still very grey.