Google Link Question

[TomSmith27]

I've logged into google webmaster tools and downloaded the entire report of sites linking to mine and searched through it but it does not include a lot of websites like livejournal.com, squidoo.com, blogspot etc i've been submitting content to sites like this for over 6 months but they dont say in the link list?

Am i doing something wrong?

Thanks

[MASSEY]

All these link engines do say that the site may not be added to their site or that it will take a certain amount of time. If you resubmit they might class it as spam so i can only think they did not want to add your site.

[Andy Walpole]

The Google link list available in their Webmaster Tools console isn't a complete list Tom. They never supply a full list so as to stop reverse engineering of their algorithm

Try Yahoo Yahoo Site Explorer or Majestic SEO

A paid but very comprehensive option is using SEOmoz PRO

[TomSmith27]

many thanks!

[fisicx]

Am i doing something wrong?
Yes - submitting content to those sites instead of putting it on your own site.

A really good niche article can leap up to #1. You get all the visitors which means a better chance of getting a lead or making the sale. How many visitors have actually visited from livejournal? I suspect the answer is 'very few'. And you can forget any SEO benefits, there aren't any.

[TomSmith27]

The same article is submitted on my site and sent out to lots of other sites who publish articles.

[Clinton]

Tom, you need to be careful with that strategy as the article on your site may be seen by the SEs as the duplicate. There's no known penalty for having duplicate content but it doesn't do you any favours.

[fisicx]

The same article is submitted on my site and sent out to lots of other sites who publish articles.
For what reason? If you have published the article on your site there is no value is sending it out to other sites. One assumes you want people to visit your site and buy your stuff or use your services, by sending the articles out to other sites you are watering down the strength of the article. Google will only normally show one copy of the article in the index so there is no SEO value and unless the articles sites get lots of targetted visitors there is no marketing value.

This isn't to say article marketing doesn't work, it's just that the way you are doing it isn't a good way.

[David198]

I've logged into google webmaster tools and downloaded the entire report of sites linking to mine and searched through it but it does not include a lot of websites like livejournal.com, squidoo.com, blogspot etc i've been submitting content to sites like this for over 6 months but they dont say in the link list?

Am i doing something wrong?

Thanks

GWT tools is not perfect. You can setup Google Alert and if they are idnexed you might get alert.

If you search for a sentence from your article in Google then you might see the blog page.

I prefer to have posts on these free blogs as they are indexed fast and if you tag them properly they might show up in tags. SEO as well as traffic you get both benefits from free blogs.

I've been submitting articles to these free blogs and they are well indexed.

As others suggested try Yahoo Site explorer...

[fisicx]

I prefer to have posts on these free blogs as they are indexed fast and if you tag them properly they might show up in tags. SEO as well as traffic you get both benefits from free blogs.
But if you post on your own site you get all the benefits. In fact the long term benefits of hosting your own blog are huge: direct traffic, free-promotion, advertising-revenue and so on.

[TomSmith27]

The articles are posted on our own site also. It's done by an SEO company each week they write one article, we add to our site and they then submit it to place which publish industry news then they list it on about 5 or 6 blod style/social media sites. Other than that they write new copy for the site a few times a month...am I wasting my SEO money each month?

[fisicx]

Pretty much yes.

There is no value at all in duplicating the article. Anyone searching for the topic will only see one result and ideally it should be your website.

Is the new copy they write any good? Is it something people search for? Are they refining the site navigation to incorporate the new content and checking that the old content still ranks well?

Have you visited these blog/social media sites? Can you find these articles easily? If not then it confirms the waste of money. If you can find them, how many new visitors do they bring each month?

[TomSmith27]

From my understand the idea of publishing the content to the network of sites they have was to improve the rankings overall. The traffic coming directly from where the articles are published wont be high but wont it benefit my rankings?

[fisicx]

No. The links back to your site will be from a bunch of identical pages. Google will spot the duplicate content and ignore 99% of the inbound links. They may show up in the link checking tools but the SEO value is just about zero.

The SEO firm is telling you porkie pies. Article marketing works if you have loads of of different articles on loads of different sites. There is software that can spin the content so as to not set off the Google alarms but there are far easier ways to promote your site.

As google says in its guidelines: do not participate in schemes to artificially increase your ranking. Your SEO firm should be busy working on you actual site, I'd put money on there being a whole bunch of things you could do for free to improve your ranking.

[TomSmith27]

Thanks for your comments so do you think I would be better spending the money on getting better articles written which more people would be interested in, posting them on our site rather than short press releases posted all over the net?

[fisicx]

YES!

Do this and you will get the visitors landing on your site with all the attendant calls to action, links to other pages, contact details and so on. You will keep all the link juice to yourself.

Even better is to post the articles on an integrated blog - these can get indexed and ranked very quickly.

[Ali-v-8]

I think Graham summed it up to a T.
Google loves content. Its like opening a Jar of Jam near a wasps nest.


YES!

Do this and you will get the visitors landing on your site with all the attendant calls to action, links to other pages, contact details and so on. You will keep all the link juice to yourself.

Even better is to post the articles on an integrated blog - these can get indexed and ranked very quickly.

[fisicx]

What you should aim to do is build up the content on the site. Provide value with informative and interesting content. Write about your products and services, provide hints and tips, examples, case studies, news and event, image galleries and so on. The list is endless.

Make sure however you review your internal linking so that there are logical information flows, relevant anchor text and so on.

If you are in a niche you will fly to the top of the search engines. Even in highly competive markets it's still possible to get a good rank with a well written and optimised article or blog post.

Do all this and the inbound links will come on their own.

[webnaveen]

Is there one-way links more beneficial than natural links from articles and blogs..??





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[fisicx]

Is there one-way links more beneficial than natural links from articles and blogs..??
Eh? They are the same thing (sort of).

[kateriyan]

HI!!
I didn't know about the majestic seo.
I don't have much idea but is it like they have put robot.txt in their site?
By which the google can't crawl?

[TomSmith27]

thanks again for this...hopefully my last question about creating content...If I were to write content which was support related for example a guide on how to fix a broken car i'm guessing this kind of content would get traffic/links from people and sites looking for help on fixing a car they already own. Bonus they see my site and might come back later or browse into it but If I were to write articles about a brand new brake system which has just been released that we sell and can link to it from within the article then that would be better?

in view of getting better ranks it makes on difference?
in view of getting some orders from it then it would be better?

Hope that makes sense.

Thanks