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Teresa2084

30th December 2005, 19:22

Hi

gosh, didnt expect such a response on spelling mistakes however, not all of us are there for uk clients only and if you take into considersation, many of us cater for US clients too and that needs to be taken into consideration.both may sound the same but are spelt differently.

If you check out the dictionary, they are in fact gramatically correct but that doesnt mean for the uk only.

hope that helps and from my experience, i know many that have added thier own copy which isnt gramatically correct and thier sites are as much in favour as those who know the oxford dictionary as well as the rest.

Jayne

30th December 2005, 19:25

lol..causing all this fuss already Teresa and you've only been here a day :lol: :lol: :lol:

Jayne

Teresa2084

30th December 2005, 19:34

may i point out that most gramatically correct proggies are not based on the uk dictionary but are based on US dictionary.

I obviously dont have the uk based one however, i know for a fact, that those of us that are not so up on spelling corrections, doesnt make us any less a business as those that spell correctly and its what you offer, not what you spell because many of us dont care much for literature, we care for our site, our designs, our products and our services.

I know a company owned by a dislexic and he has done better than most of us, spelling mistkakes and all.

Things are changing on the net and whilst we want perfection, spelling isnt one of them because although it may look gramatically correct, doesnt make it a good service does it?

was you aware google have gramatical errors on it? maybe you could dictate to them too.

out of observation, the sites on my portfolio are good and the complex sites are not done by many as most dont have the knowledge to build such huge sites from scratch. Cant be bad can it and as those sites have over 90000 between them, do you think they are hunting down spellling mistakes? prob not.

I guess spelling isnt foremost like we expect.

and for thoseof us that are lazy in spelling, hey, comeon, spelling isnt anyones english other than the queens.

Jayne

30th December 2005, 19:39

I was only joking with you :lol:

I cannot spell for toffee, everyone knows that on here. It doesn't bother me much if I see an odd spelling mistake on a site, as long as it's not a site charging to correct English spelling mistakes:D

Jayne

Teresa2084

30th December 2005, 19:45

Jayne

I recon it was the queens english that done it lol.

Love to meet claire, she is 10 mins from me and love her art.

Teresa

Jayne

30th December 2005, 19:50

Jayne

I recon it was the queens english that done it lol.

Love to meet claire, she is 10 mins from me and love her art.

Teresa

So it's the Queen's fault I get all this stick about my spelling, she's off my Christmas card list now :lol:

Jayne

Projectmaster

30th December 2005, 19:51

.......Liam may have been picking up on typos but, not wanting to sound like a moaning mertle (my spellings cr*p by the way) There are a few things that don't really add up with the site
Especially the portfolio where one of your sites looks amazingly like one found on monster templates..........
http://www.templatemonster.com/flash-templates/9564.html

You will see how much experience the web masters have in both normal sites and those that are far more comprehensive than many web masters.

Not wanting to drive the nail in, but you are an 'Internet Marketing & Webdesign Business'............

When you say internet marketing do you mean SEO or just adding sites to your directory ?
As I have tried putting the sites that are in your portfolio, with the exception of your own 123 site, into google and they don't appear anywhere, nor do they actually appear in your own directory.(PHPdirectory.com$99.95)

(Sorry just spotted another exception BCL Services website, designed by a company called 'quality-website-design' or 'web design uk', or even, if you goto the contact page a company called webdesign123....take your pick)

Are they all you ?

Lastly, When you say 'Webdesign' do you mean that you buy templates from somewhere like templatemonster & PHP code from places like phpdirectory and redesign them to customers needs or do you have your own programmers ?

I don't know all that much about web design or SEO but it all seems like a bit of a spiders web from here..... so which of the above businesses are you, or can't you decide......?

Teresa2084

30th December 2005, 19:58

Dare I ask you to add to http://www.123trades.co.uk a business directory

yet another of my sites. Im now going through it for spelling mistakes so all you that advertise on it and want to be upgraded to platinum FREE, just tell me ur name on there and ensure you have no spelling mistakes and i will add you FREE to platinum.

Claire, I think your art will do well and saw you on another site. I like ur art alot.

No offence taken.

I guess we all have our values in life. Mine is to get women together to create a one stop business venture that will cater for all needs. Maybe im dreaming eh!

creospace

30th December 2005, 20:04

There is only one correct English and that is British English!

Trousers not pants
Boot not trunk
Pavement not sidewalk

S not Z

the list is endless!

:)

creospace

30th December 2005, 20:11

Do you know how annoying it is teaching English as a foreign language and having to use American based teaching materials, although we are allowed to correct the mistakes :)

Hayles

30th December 2005, 20:25

Welcome to the forum Teresa!

Sorry to start with a negative but I personally think spelling is really, really important on a website. (As it is for any business letter or advertising.) Obviously it doesn't matter on here - we all spell things wrong all the time which no one gives a hoot about. However, I have to say that I would steer clear of a web designer that has spelling mistakes or US spelling on their (UK) site/s. But perhaps that's just me!

Anyway, you've certainly caused a stir in your short time with us - shows the forum is lively doesn't it!!?

Hope you enjoy your time here and it helps you as much as it's helping me and lots of others.

Hayles :D

RedArc

30th December 2005, 21:31

Welcome Teresa,

Hope you find the forum useful.

I'm sure you'll find lots of information, some great contacts and plenty of friends too. I've noticed that things do get heated on here sometimes but it all tends to be in good spirit. That's the passion of entrepreneurs.

Best wishes,

Carol

PS ... I've edited my original post because I want to cover the topic of writers in the main forum.

mumper

30th December 2005, 21:58

Teresa, the following is on your website:

Is your website producing the leads and customers you want?
* Are the only visitors to your website your friends or existing clients?
* Do you get enough hits but not the business?
* Is your web site in need of a new look & feel?
* Do you need marketing to generate you sales?

If you feel it's ok to have poor spelling on your site then fine, that's your choice, but at least be consistent. Website or web site - both versions are acceptable but not both on the same site or the same page.

You are right when you say that not everyone can spell correctly but believe it or not, people ARE put off a website that has too many errors in the copy. If you can't or won't correct the mistakes, customers may get the impression that your service suffers from the same lack of care?

bci

31st December 2005, 01:55

Hi Teresa,

Welcome to the forum!

I am just wondering that as an internet marketing/SEO professional, why you have made it so much more difficult for yourself by selecting a domain name such as marketing-ur-business.

It doesn't seem to me to have any "real world" or online marketing attributes - in that,

1. it is not memorable or easily brandable,
2. it doesn't contain a useful keyword related to your services (especially since you are giving it the handicap of hyphens),
3. it is unlikely to have any "type-in" value.
4. you'll have to spell it when giving it out over the phone.

I am just asking in case it has some qualities that I am not aware of.

Alpha

31st December 2005, 10:08

S not Z

Actually not always the case................Galvanizing is the english spelling!! :D :D :D

Projectmaster

31st December 2005, 11:32

Personally I don't think spelling is a problem for this business, as I said before, (look up the thread) the sites portfolio are mainly sites that don't exist or templates from templatemonster, and designed by other sites, I've got a feeling that its just a way of trying to increase placings on search engines.

Coding Monkey

31st December 2005, 11:34

Projectmaster, I was going to reply commenting on the biggest overuse (and strangest use) of JavaScript I've ever seen on a website and thought it was too harsh. Then you came along and said that. What an eye you have ;)

JustOneUK

31st December 2005, 17:21

hello Teresa2084, we meet again.

Good luck with your business. Happy New Year

James
JustOneUK

Teresa2084

31st December 2005, 18:29

I have found some of the responses negative however it doesnt deter me and the name of my site ISNT there for SEO but is that name because I LIKE IT. I used pickaweb to build my site because I WANTED TOO despite the offers from the web masters to build it for me. I enjoyed doing it for myself. I am also trying to work out SEO for myself as its just something thats started to interest me and again, its not a crime for me to want to learn even if I do have a pro that does SEO on my behalf if a customer wants it. Im enjoying learning. Luckily most of the sites ive had done are from people that know of me or have been sent to me from people that do know me. Word of mouth.
I wasnt aware i needed to rank top in google and have SEO to get work as i dont have any problems getting work strangely enough and that was without my little web site.

For £150 for 5 pages, you can not expect a £800 site.
If you want dynasty, then you have to pay for it

3 web masters, one SEO specialist and me. One web master is a newie and young and he wants more experience so i use him to do the small inexpensive sites because not everyone can afford expensive ones so its great for new customers that dont have the money to splash out to get a cost effective site. IT gives him more experience too. 2nd web master specialises in other aspects of sites and the 3rd specialised in large sites that are very complex. I guess i have all aspects covered.

I dont apreciate being accusing by someone of having unreal sites in my portfolio and are all real and ive only just put the site marketing ur business up when 3 of those sites are owned by me in that portfolio of which ive already given out the directory url in here so very real and 2 cost thousands of pounds to have built from scratch and have thousands of registered users between them and both copywritten inc source code and flash in them and both very original. Those sites are adult and my directory is NOT an adult directory hence why they are not in it as you may of noticed its a business directory. Do you not feel it would be wise to ask before making such bad accusations when there is the possibility of a very good reason and all it took was to ask?

As for the US language, I kind of like it alot. I have lots of US friends whom love to mock me and when I said im just off for a fag they see it differently and when i say that little sod is geeting on my nerves they laugh and when asked what my idea of sod was, i replied, my kids and they see it as grass that cows eat. Cant please everyone eh!

Teresa2084

31st December 2005, 18:32

James you are everywhere ha ha

Happy new year to you too.

Jayne

31st December 2005, 18:42

Happy New Year Teresa :D

Jayne

Teresa2084

31st December 2005, 19:00

I didnt incite a reaction like this in this forum from my original post and i dont recall asking anyone for advice on my sites etc but people assumed they should just dish it out anyway which is distracting and defeats the original post. Neither did i ask for people to slag off what i do, but some done it anyway. And unjustly too with even serious accusations being made without checking out the facts first which I find a concern.

There is a huge difference between sound advice especially to a newie to a forum than dishing out critisism and the difference between the 2 is, you can push someone in the wrong direction which is unprofessional or you can steer them in the right direction.

I havent found this the right direction.

Happy new year to all

Teresa2084

31st December 2005, 19:02

Happy new year Jayne

I hope you have a great one and apreciate your help.

Teresa

Jayne

31st December 2005, 19:04

You are welcome..

Have a go in Time-out section, it's much nicer in there :D

Jayne

Admiral Collections

31st December 2005, 19:05

Happy New Year Theresa.

I am so sorry you feel upset by the harsh replies. Web design etc seems to be an area where people freak. Don't worry, we are not all harsh, I'm the least harsh person on here.

Nic :wink:

JustOneUK

31st December 2005, 19:36

James you are everywhere ha ha

Happy new year to you too.

8)

If you want to chat about SEO I have plenty to say about it over at my Website forum (http://forum.softwaretakeaway.com). It's new and a bit empty right now. You are more than welcome to join and ask some questions or contribute your ideas.
I am happy to take a look over your site if you want, as you know I shoot from the hip and don't pull any punches.

Good luck to one and all for 2006.

James

Teresa2084

31st December 2005, 22:07

Hi Nic Hi jayne

Thankyou i will visit there.

Luckily im not a web masters site so I dont need the urls to the screen shots on my site but it is the very serious allegation that has been made publicly in the forum about my site which is my concern as thats not freaking, its simply bang out of order and very unprofessional by any standards not to mention the damage it could do to a business.

Many of you have been great and I thankyou for that and have a great new year as im now off to celebrate it coming in soon

but for the few that havent been fair and have treated me unjustly, may 2006 bring you some better people skills.

Teresa

Teresa2084

31st December 2005, 22:27

Hi James

Ive really found SEO very fascinating and i have really had some fun trying to learn about it. I got this proggy called CEO and my site started off as 0 on everything and I had no idea what meta tags were let alone anything else but after playing with it for over a week now and im none the wiser, in fact i think im obsessed and none the wiser. my main keyword in it does show up in CEO for my url name however the page names dont and im trying to work out where the page names are so i can change them and i did think i found them on the admin area. But...

They werent the right files and i promptly deleted the whole site which wasnt my intention.

Although there was an improvement when pickaweb got my site back up. I managed to get 3% show in that CEO proggy and had no idea where that 3% came from but a great excuse to celebrate and the more legless i got i must of been at my best because the CEO proggy started to show more % and i still dont know what ive changed to get that ha ha love it.

I will join your forum.

bwglaw

1st January 2006, 22:06

Welcome Teresa - as a loyal member it disappoints me that you had to be interrogated upon joining the forum, especially by those who have not been members of this forum long, or have posted much.

We should all remember that 'introduction' is purely to welcome new members. Site critiques, whether valid or not should be reserved for other forums upon an invitation.

Additionally, we should all remember that 'introduction' is where new members get first impressions whether to remain active members.

In business, there is a time and place.

Jayne

1st January 2006, 22:10

Well said Jonathan, couldn't have put it better myself :D

Jayne

bwglaw

1st January 2006, 22:13

Thanks Jayne... I have experienced a similar kind of thing until I made the facts extra obvious...not on this forum though.

Hayles

1st January 2006, 22:31

but for the few that havent been fair and have treated me unjustly, may 2006 bring you some better people skills.

Teresa

Hi Teresa

In light of Jayne and Jonathan's comments, just wanted to say I hope I didn't offend you? I was giving my opinion in reply to your opinion and I think that's ok, even in the intro thread?

Anyway, best of luck. I have no techy knowledge so I don't really know what the other guys were talking about, but as Nic said, alot of people on here are very.... what's the word..... 'suspicious' (?), of the claims of web designers, builders, SEO professionals, etc.

So, apologies if I did offend you. It wasn't intended and you really should stick around because if you are interested in all the techy web stuff, you'll learn loads here :D

crus

1st January 2006, 22:36

'Geez louise',

anyone would think some people on here felt threatened by your pricing.

Good luck!

I may even off load some work your way at those kinda prices.

D

Teresa2084

1st January 2006, 23:18

Hi Johnathon

Happy New Year

Yes it was a little daunting to walk into such a response especially when I didn't ask for it and so many. I felt under fire and I didn't feel any of it was constructive but more along the lines of a hit squad in process. The worst was the member that made such a serious allegation on my sites portfolio.

It was nice of some to offer a friendlier aproach.

I will stay but was going to leave as a result of how I was treated. I hope some of those members think about thier people skills and re-evaluate how they treat other members.

Thankyou for those whom have been supportive.

Teresa2084

1st January 2006, 23:23

I could of gone cheaper but I need a new dress as I have gone up a size.

Jayne

1st January 2006, 23:23

The nicer lot on here, far out weigh the grumpy ones, they will have forgotten this by now and moved onto another victim :lol:

Glad you are staying

Jayne :D

Teresa2084

1st January 2006, 23:25

Thankyou Jayne

I apreciate it. Have a drink on me \_/

Jayne

1st January 2006, 23:27

lol..thanks, fill it up and chuck it over :lol:

I'll have a Bodingtons

Jayne :lol:

Teresa2084

2nd January 2006, 00:20

Hi crus

Im always available if you want to off load any work my way. You wouldn't regret it and can give you the url's of all the sites and many more if you want to see them which I am sure you will.

Teresa

Jayne

Ha ha ha fill it up and chuck it over eh! you like getting wet then

creospace

2nd January 2006, 00:37

Granted a warm welcome should always be given however, websdesign is a trade that seems to of attracted every tom, dick and harry who think they can cut it. It is left for some to protect a proffesion but sometimes we go over board :)

Sadly not everyone can cut it, I admit there are better desigenrs than me i'm not the best but I work to set recognised standards within the industry and soon i hope we wil start to see a trend where those who don't won't!

Teresa I suggest you take advantage of the advice and smarten up your site ready for bigger and better business.

Gary

bci

2nd January 2006, 01:34

<<<<<
.... i dont recall asking anyone for advice on my sites etc
<<<<<

Teresa - you are quite right. This is the Introduction section and you didn't ask for any comments. My apologies .... and best wishes for the New Year!

But before I go, creospace, you said,
<<<<
I admit there are better desigenrs than me i'm ...
<<<<
That's very true ... and you can't spell either! And I don't mean in your post ....

Thought I'll have a quick look at your website, and see whether I could find some spelling mistakes (many websites do ... I'm sure some of mine do - as I have quite a few websites, and some with articles written by other people) - and I didn't have to go far down your home page:
<<<<<<<
We think we have the right mix of creative design and programming enabling us to produce contempory ....
<<<<<<
Maybe you meant ... contemporary?

Just thought that you might like to take your own advice to heart.

You posted,
<<<<<
Teresa I suggest you take advantage of the advice and smarten up your site ready for bigger and better business.
<<<<<

Sorry for the comments! Just can't help it since you all were picking on Teresa's spelling ...! Maybe I should have a look at the others' websites? Maybe I would find another mistake or two? No ... I have better things to do.
Anyway got to go now, time for some lunch .... and Happy New Year to all.

Teresa2084

2nd January 2006, 02:33

Hi

I am the first to say there are bad web masters out there that are coyboys and 2 years ago 2 ripped me off big time. One of them d n computer services ripped me off out of £6000 for a site worth 1k max and wasnt even finished and he ran off with the rest of my money and he had outsourced most of the sites programming to a company called ocean bear in the uk and then i got a phone call one night from that man telling me if i didnt pay out £1000 by midnight my site would be stripped and i didnt have £1000 so the guy stripped it and the police and solicitor got involved and the nutter sent me a bill on top of it all and tried to get more money out of me that way for work he hadnt even done. ocean bear has again stripped my site last week and sent me what i think is such an old version of it by email and a good job I kept all its users up to date and have all thier details etc. its built in C++ and i dont know any webby that does C++ to see if the site is all there in the email file he sent me or to even put it back up again as I dont know how to do it.

A company called freshwebdesign web company/investor came to me then done alot worst to me.

Ive been through hell and thats how I met 2 of the web designers i use and have done for a while now and if it wasnt for them id never trust a webby again.

Since those 2 I have learn my lesson well and i would love to see a forum up called name and shame those cowboy web companies. I was new to business at the time but im alot wiser now and I would hate to see anyone else go through what i did.

Teresa2084

2nd January 2006, 02:57

bci

I looked at a couple of the sites of the members that said terrible things to me and tut tut i have to say.

I have now made some corrections in the site ha ha and im not sure if it is up to standard and i checked the spelling with my us spell checker as im shattered so feel free to send me the spelling mistakes and thier corrections in a nice way so I can change them. Take note that i have also added to ask for the urls to the sites displayed in the portfolio. I done it in bold so i hope its easy to read. I made the email form shorter too and much of the font size through out the site but the fonts all look the same to me even when i change them. I also changed the pricing and have 2 types of 5 page sites, one for the young lad that does them with his tools at £150 and the other price for the very experienced web master and both are good prices. I think i may need to go and change the copy on that and put junior web design and senior web design next to those 2 prices what do you think? Its like hairdressers, you pay for a junior and get a nice hair style or you pay for the senior stylist who gives a more defined hair cut. Ive even added a magic wand on 2 pages so you can watch the pretty colours as you move your curser so you dont get bored.

I like the design of my site. Its pretty and has a pretty woman on it and i like looking at pretty women, dont you?

You can have a laugh at this web site which is much worst and my first attempt at the site and i assure you it is really really bad so please dont make any comments on it because i know just how bad it is lol www.market-ur-biz.com and I myself designed its banner thing ha ha and believe it or not, it took me 7 hours to do. I used 2 proggies to do the banner and became a cut and paste queen and i was so proud of my master piece and when one of the webbies looked at it i think he was in shock.

Teresa2084

2nd January 2006, 03:12

see how tired i am

i forgot to publish the changes ha ha so you will of rushed to view me making the site better and probably all sat there looking for the changes ha ha they are there now.

creospace

2nd January 2006, 08:20

Bci I have had my site re written by a copy writer but I just havent got around to putting it up yet, like a mechanic never fixes his car i guess :)

Fortunatly i odn't need my site to sell my work as most of my work is word of mouth, good referals faith in my excellent skills etc (without blowing my trumpet) but the poitn being i'm not reliant on my site and my souces of work are far sounder then casual passers by :)

Thanks anyway but my point was more to do with quality of work not solely the spelling and grammar.

Projectmaster

2nd January 2006, 22:32

OMG we're back onto spelling again & Teresa, I have to admit, I slightly went off on one there, didn't mean to offend you, I was just looking for a few answers, when I should have just said a plain Hello, and for that I am truely sorry I'm stuffing humble pie down my throat as fast as I can make it...................

Welcome

Teresa2084

2nd January 2006, 23:29

Hi Projectmaster

You wrote the sites portfolio are mainly sites that don't exist or templates from templatemonster, and designed by other sites

That was my concern because that could affect my business before id even started if people read what you wrote and believe you. Its all good that I already have customers thankfully but not for people to see if they dont know me and in a public forum. I accept your appology but I do hope in the future that you ask if you have any doubts on any site you view and if you have any doubts, just ask as you may find theres a reason.

If a newie comes in, i think people tend to get a little too carried away and critical and forget thats a person they are giving advice to. I think it is wiser to step back and think then give advice constructively, dont put them down, encourage them, simply point out in a nice way where you think there is a problem and how it can be rectified as they will benefit but keep letting them know that what they are doing is good even if you hate the look of thier site or its your competition etc because its that persons business and everyone has to start somewhere. A little encouragement goes a long way. And the net is a very big place and there really is plenty of work to go round.

Im a marketing company not a web design company although it is one of the services ( a great one at that) and gosh i wish i could build a proper site myself as im starting to get annoyed with the web site builder im using and if it werent for the fact i am married to my pc, id put a hammer in it and crack that web site builder open and re design the damn thing. Ive already got 2 web site builder companies on the go and cant sort either of them out and if i keep trying to do it myself, i am sure to run out of domain names to fail on. I think my next domain name will be marketing everyones business but my own.com Is that SEO friendly?

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