New small Hosting company

[q5host]

Hi!
I`m opening a new hosting company and I wanted to know where I can get business broadband like 100mb symetric. I wanted to wait for Virgin media with their 200 but they propably will offer asymetric. So anyway I registered here to get help from you guys.

[KM-Tiger]

Are you proposing running your hosting on the end of a broadband connection?

[cocodude]

You really are better off getting hosted with someone situated at a proper data centre. You'll never get a reliable connection on the end of a broadband feed, even if it's 100Mbps. Think about network failover, redudant power supplies, fire extinguishing systems etc. that you could never sort out at home.

Are you intending on providing only application (e.g. weband mail) hosting, or VPS hosting, or dedicated hosting?

[alanc]

Most small hosting companies are re-sellers of hosting provided by large data centres.

[q5host]

I will start with shared nothing big then after yr or two maybe dedicated. I really need Information about the best solutions because I dont know nothind and people that were helping me.... well they didnt help

[PewPew]

I really need Information about the best solutions because I dont know nothind and people that were helping me.... well they didnt help

Does this mean you have no experience whatsoever managing web servers and that you're relying on other people (like us) to run your business?

Plus the above is correct, unless your bedroom has full air conditioning, diesel backup generators and fire extinguishing systems, I wouldn't bother because people will be able to get a more reliable host.

[cocodude]

If you're starting off small, I think there are two options you can go for:


Reseller: Basically, reselling web services provided by someone else. You make a cut of the money, but frankly it's quite dull.
Setting up your own webhost: More difficult (technically and marketing), but you'll get to learn the proper ins and outs of web hosting, and the profit is all yours. If you're starting off small, I recommend running this on a VPS setup so you have full access to the operating system.

[q5host]

No I was telling that the help I was given from Prince`s Trust was like they told me what should I have not where I can get It. I need Info about where I can get some stuff like broadband or what will be the best solution like leasing space from data centre those are the information that I need.

[q5host]

If you're starting off small, I think there are two options you can go for:


Reseller: Basically, reselling web services provided by someone else. You make a cut of the money, but frankly it's quite dull.
Setting up your own webhost: More difficult (technically and marketing), but you'll get to learn the proper ins and outs of web hosting, and the profit is all yours. If you're starting off small, I recommend running this on a VPS setup so you have full access to the operating system.



Ok so Reseller for start and It`s only shared If something happens I have to first contact them then contact my clients so It`s taking little bit of time thats why I would like to set up my own webhost. I have knowledge about systems, setting up, basically about everything related with webhosting but what I dont have Is info

* Set up at my own place like not used room and get all related stuff like wentilation and others
or
* Rent a space In data centre

[cocodude]

Ok so Reseller for start and It`s only shared If something happens I have to first contact them then contact my clients so It`s taking little bit of time thats why I would like to set up own webhost
Sorry, I'm a bit confused here. Are you looking to resell someone else's web offerings (with them providing the actual hosting, and possibly you dealing with support, new account creation etc.), or are you thinking of going one step further and doing the technical side of actually doing the hosting yourself?

If it's the latter, you're probably actually better off getting everything running on your home PC first (e.g. by using a virtualisation solution such as VMWare and running Linux) before moving on to a VPS/dedicated server.

[cocodude]

* Set up at my own place like not used room and get all related stuff like wentilation and others
or
* Rent a space In data centre
OK, I didn't see this extra bit of the post before replying above.

If you're starting off small, don't rent space yourself (as this involves buying a server and colocating it). Instead, either rent an entire dedicated server, or a VPS. You can always transition from VPS to dedicated server if you wanted to start off smaller.

[q5host]

I will explain you like this. Reselling someone`s services takes time because something will happen for example client need new IP I have to contact my provider first tell them what my client needs wait for their response then contact my client telling him what next so It`s like I`m dependent from someone else.

What I want Is to have my own server even at my empty room so I can manage It and do everything related with my clients without having to contact someone to do It.

Yes I can set up server from my PC but my home broadband Is only 20 MB asymetric

[cocodude]

What I want Is to have my own server even at my empty room so I can manage It and do everything related with my clients without having to contact someone to do It.

Yes I can set up server from my PC but my home broadband Is only 20 MB asymetric
Fair enough. By setting it up from your PC, I only meant setting it up for testing purposes instead of paying a provider in the meantime. When you're ready, I recommend getting a VPS, which will have full control of your OS. You can take things from there.

[stugster]

Stop what you're doing and step away from the keyboard.

[MH-Nick]

q5host, as you said you have the technical ability to setup and run the servers, but I'm surprised you believe you can operate this service from your home. If you care about providing a high quality service, run your servers from a data centre and no where else. And when your customers find out about your home server (which they will easily be able to do), they'll run for the hills.

I know you've come here asking for advice, but not knowing the technical implications of a home based server means you don't know your subject well enough. You're not ready to be trusted with the availabilty on peoples businesses. Sorry to be blunt.

[Dominic Taylor]

I will explain you like this. Reselling someone`s services takes time because something will happen for example client need new IP I have to contact my provider first tell them what my client needs wait for their response then contact my client telling him what next so It`s like I`m dependent from someone else.
If you open a reseller account with us, you'd only be waiting on average 15 minutes or so for a reply....with our experience and knowledge we can usually answer even the strangest of queries within that usual timeframe :)

It's good that you have the technical ability to run a server but there really is an awful lot to learn about running a reliable, secure hosting environment.

I'd open a reseller account and host with that, but also run a separate server (eg. the server at your home or a cheap VDS which will be much easier than your own server due to cheap control panel licensing, ability to reimage etc) which you can use to run a parallel environment.

That said we jumped in at the 'deep end' and have always run our own servers; but if cash is a concern to you then you should certainly be looking at simpler offerings to reduce your initial spend. Good hosts will host hundreds of resellers with no trouble; everyone starts somewhere :)

[JoyDivision]

Been following this on my mobile.

To the OP I think you're being a little bit niave. Just thing about what a host is, if my website goes down I am huming, if my email I goes down I feel like bombing Blackpool (where my host is based, but thankfully it never goes down).

If you plan to setup a host in your bedroom it will not work, reliability just won't be any good. In fact the uptime over a week will probably be about 90%. Oh and don't expect your clients internet to work when your mum comes in and does the hoovering :p:

Good look with your venture BUT if you want to get into hosting game then reselling an existing package is probably the best state at this point. You can then forcus your unique selling point on providing top notch support.

My email host is Dhosting (a member on here) if I have any problems he is always there to answer the phone. I have often envied how he can have the patience to provide this level of support, all for £10 a year.

These days there are far easier ways to make money than from being a host.

[dunerider]

Asolutely insane to consider running a hosting service outside of a datacentre, you simply will not be able to offer speed, security and reliability.

Much better to resell - find yourself a provider who will reply promptly to your requests.

[Chris Ashdown]

Hire a managed dedicated server and offer people a part of it

Costs about £1000-2000 per year for very good server from UKFAST or Rackspace

Al set up for yo to resell and includes all things like daily backups etc

[PewPew]

A basic question.

How old are you?

[Ceco Solutions]

I wouldn't recommend a dedicated server or VPS in this case.

If you don't know the basic theirs no point in wasting money on servers yet

first read up on resellers

[othellotech]

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Reselling someone`s services takes time because something will happen for example client need new IP I have to contact my provider first tell them what my client needs wait for their response then contact my client telling him what next so It`s like I`m dependent from someone else.
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Correct, as a *reseller* you're acting as a "middleman" providing part of the service You get from the actual Host to your Client - as a business it works very well.

From the level of questions you're asking, you dont sound "ready" to start managing your own VPS/Server, and I'd strongly suggest sticking with Reseller Hosting.