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Jayne
20th December 2005, 21:22
Hi,

Been reading a lot on here about business coaches. What do they do?

I have visions of someone standing over me saying, come on girl, type faster..lol

Please enlighten me!

Jayne

clairemackaness
20th December 2005, 21:59
Its like a life coach, but they focus on your goals in business and how to realistically acheive them

Jayne
20th December 2005, 22:01
So they are the same as my bank manager then :D

Thanks Claire

lgylsen
21st December 2005, 09:21
My bank Manager sees me coming and sneers at me!

Every coach is different depending on their character and style. I do not look at just one aspect of what they want i.e, more money, more clients, I need to find out how they view the whole of their life.

I have coached quite a few people whose goals just don't gel with the rest of their life, its pointless someone saying they want to make a million in the next 12 months, if their favourite pastime is watching reruns of Start Trek for 5 hours a day! (I swear this is true).

Jayne
21st December 2005, 09:30
Thanks Lorna,

I was just curious how this coaching thing all works. Sounds interesting and i'm just nosey :lol:

Jayne

lgylsen
21st December 2005, 09:56
Your welcome Jayne

I've always loved reading the posts on this forum because you come across people and businesses you may not have known about otherwise.

I am e-mailing my partner claire's website as I want a painting for my birthday!

Hayles
21st December 2005, 11:15
When I'm rich I'm going to have a life and business coach! (And housework coach and parenting coach :lol: )

Seriously, what sort of costs are involved with business coaches? Does it depend on the amount of hours you're on the phone to us telling us what we need to do to improve, or is it a one off fee and we get unlimited help?

lgylsen
21st December 2005, 11:27
Although the vast amount of coaches do bill by the hour, I do not.

I look at the overall goal that the client wants to achieve and we work from there. Some goals are really easy to help people with, and some I really need to get the big boot out to kick clients ***!!!

Prices are bespoke, I would never dream of charging someone who has just started their own business and is lacking in funds the same price as a Managing Director in a corporate company.

I am coaching a therapist at the moment, he can't afford anything so he pays me in reiki and head massage treatments!

If i can help someone I will.

daveashton
21st December 2005, 11:36
a consultant will do a skilled job for you.

a coach will help you do that job yourself.

Richard Conyard
21st December 2005, 11:52
I've only been in one company that brought a business coach in, not this one (you'll see why I am quick to add this later).

From the outside it seemed the process was to chat with the MD, look over the books, interview the staff and observe before coming back with some recommendations.

Unfortunately it didn't work out and the coaches findings weren't liked. Apparently the MD didn't like it pointed out that turning up at midday, pocketing 40% of turnover and making drunken abusive phone calls to staff weren't condusive to an efficient workplace. So rather than any benefit the coach was dismissed, the MD went off to sulk for a few days before returning and making peoples lives even more hell.

Rob Holmes
21st December 2005, 12:14
a consultant will do a skilled job for you.

a coach will help you do that job yourself.

Very succinct.

My experiences of 'business coaches' is that they rather annoyingly and time consumingly make you come up with all the answers yourself.

It may not be true of all coaches :) I guess they all have their different styles.

Rob

Coding Monkey
21st December 2005, 12:27
They certainly do ask a lot of questions, but I found it really beneficial having a chat with one.

Jayne
21st December 2005, 13:17
So basically, a coach is there to kick you up the bum and tell you to get on with it :D (But with more professional wording)

Sounds like my Gran.

Jayne :D

daveashton
21st December 2005, 13:22
thats about right Jayne but I bet your Gran is not 800-1500 per day!

Jayne
21st December 2005, 13:26
Heck Dave, that much...think i'll become a business coach, Jayne style :lol:

Jayne

daveashton
21st December 2005, 13:29
yup at least a consultant does the job but they still leave you to do it!

Jayne
21st December 2005, 13:33
So you are paying someone to nag in your ear all day and tell you what you are doing wrong :D

But a consultant lets you put your feet up, without the nagging and does the work for you.

My Gran would make an excellent coach :lol:

Jayne

SMG
22nd December 2005, 07:49
Hi everyone, just read "what is a business coach" along with some of the very interesting replies. I've been a business coach for a few years and have found the most successful approach is to review where a clients business is now and if they believe it/they are achieving their full potential.

It's then a process of identifying where they want to be and agreeing the steps to be taken to get there. A time frame is then agreed along with weekly goals and objectives which are reviewed.

The key is not to 'tell' a client but to help them work it out for themselves.

It's extremely rewarding to see the change in people and to be a part of their success.

Obviously, there's a lot more to it, however, the above is a simple way of putting it.

May I wish everyone a very Merry Xmas and a Prosperous New Year.

Mark

Jayne
22nd December 2005, 10:20
Thanks Mark, I was only joking around. I bet you do a great job for many people :D

Jayne

bci
22nd December 2005, 18:36
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I have coached quite a few people whose goals just don't gel with the rest of their life, its pointless someone saying they want to make a million in the next 12 months, if their favourite pastime is watching reruns of Start Trek for 5 hours a day! (I swear this is true).
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What about 5 hours a day at online forums?