New website Quote wanted !!!

[shaun adams]

I am looking at this site www easierprint-trade.co.uk

and wondering what the price for such a project would be, the site is very much similar in products and functionality to how I would like it.

I would like a calculator on Banners, Labels and Stickers pages with built in upload artwork function (and page for just uploading artwork) when paying and a couple of extra options like click for basic artwork which adds £10 (needs to be a Better graphic designed layout).

I would also like an RSS news feed, facebook and Twitter functionality.

The product pages could do with combining features of these three choices....


(1) www design-matrix.co.uk


(2) www imagegroupuk.com/exhibition-display/roller-banners/full-range-of-roller-banners.html

(3) http://www.homeleisuredirect.com/pool_tables/american_pool_tables/buffalo_outdoor_pool_table_8ft.html

I really like the actual product and selection page of Home leisure direct (Drop down and selection style menus for adding extras) also the Shopping cart.

I only have a few items for half as many category at the minute so I need a CMS that is easy enough for me to use I require


Addition and organisation of pages and categories
Manipulation of core website content
Editing of SEO data
Uploading of images and assets
Addition of products, options and accessories
Organisation and customisation of products within website categories
Creation of “2 for 1” Style Offers
Management of customer information.
Recording of all site purchases
Reports to show sales and customer activity
Google anaytics
Paypal payment pro or Sage pay haven't decided yet



I would like preferably joomla or Drupal and the site must be custom built

I would also like someone with a good portfolio of work and a graphic design background or someone who has contacts with graphic design people.

[DougDesigns]

Hi there,

I would also email http://www.springwebdesign.co.uk/ they designed that site.

Just my two cents.

[shaun adams]

I would just like a quote from a few companies as it is time to pick a company to build my website.

thanks for the advice though

[cantfindanythingleft]

You'll get a competitive quote from elance dot com

[shaun adams]

just want a price and contact - website details, I want to get started straight away.

[AndyP]

Is it just me or is this yet another thread started by the same person asking pretty much the same question again (and again and again) with slightly different wording?

It's also (IMO) a tad unprofessional (or at the very least rude) to post URL's to other company's websites here. OK, do your research OP and look at other sites, we all do that but don't go openly copying.... that's simply naughty.

But, why do you keep posting pretty much the same question? The other threads from you have all been answered respectfully and honestly as far as I can see.

[bdw]

Is it just me or is this yet another thread started by the same person asking pretty much the same question again (and again and again)

and again and again and again. :(

[Place of design]

We estimate £4000

[Kev Jaques]

I estimate £5000 inc VAT

[shaun adams]

Hi sorry if this is a bit repetitive now but if you don't want to quote please don't reply, better yet just ignore my posts if you don't like my questions.

I need a quote if you want the work please quote me.

[bdw]

I think you are missing the point Shaun. It is not in the spirit of the forums to make repeated posts about the same subject in new threads.

[shaun adams]

I understand that it may be repetitive but each time my design has changes or it has been about different elements of the site.

I am now looking for the design I have final chosen and rather than give quotes people would rather waste time telling me it is a repeat post.

If you don't want another repeat post please let people give quotes or else I will need a new post.

[Michelle_HLD]

Shaun,

No DECENT web design company could give you a realistic quote on such a patchy incomplete brief so to expect that is unrealistic. Any web company that can offer you a quote on such a small outlined brief in my eyes would be unprofessional and inaccurate.

I'd also prefer it if you didn't keep posting my website details http://www.homeleisuredirect.com and trying to get someone to copy it because I am finding it increasingly annoying.

I have tried to help you in a number of PM emails but you still keep posting the same question again and again on here.

I think you need to do your homework and actually figure out a real brief and simply meet with the web designers you shortlist and discuss it further with them.

[AndyP]

Heres a thought Shaun. Why not spend some time writing a comprehensive brief and emailing this to 4 or 5 designers that you have located from here or elsewhere. You will then get back quotations to mull over. Whittle that down to, say, the two or three front runners and then set up face to face meetings with your potential designers. You can then move forward based on the results of those meetings.

This forum is great but really it's just a starting point....you can't realistically base one of the most important aspects of your new business on forum posts alone. That's just asking for disaster.

There are lots of good people here with a wealth of experience who are generally willing to help but you can't really expect to use this forum as your own personal consultancy...and then start to get "arsey" as well!!

[shaun adams]

Thanks I pretty much know who I am going to use but just wanted a few quotes, anyway thanks for the help (I do need to talk to a few designers).

Michelle_HLD sorry if it looks like I won't to copy your websites, I can assure you I don't I just like elements of it (the rest is not very practical for my website).

I also think that it should be a compliment that I hold some of your site elements in such a high position.

Thanks for your help and we can close this thread now.

[Michelle_HLD]

It is a compliment SHaun, however I have sent you at least 5 PM helping you out but you are still insistent on asking the same questions time and time again on the forum.

I am sure I am not the only person who has been generous with their time in helping you but to see you using the forum in such a way is frustrating. It's almost as though you want everyone to do all the hard work for you.

[Place of design]

Shaun,

No DECENT web design company could give you a realistic quote on such a patchy incomplete brief so to expect that is unrealistic. Any web company that can offer you a quote on such a small outlined brief in my eyes would be unprofessional and inaccurate.

I'd also prefer it if you didn't keep posting my website details http://www.homeleisuredirect.com and trying to get someone to copy it because I am finding it increasingly annoying.

I have tried to help you in a number of PM emails but you still keep posting the same question again and again on here.

I think you need to do your homework and actually figure out a real brief and simply meet with the web designers you shortlist and discuss it further with them.
I think you will find our quotes are generic, based on sites of this size, and scale. Hence one for £4000 and another for £5000 (it isnt a quote for 4155 or 4975 etc). We provide more accurate quotes after the brief is nailed down. We also never copy anyone's site.. Hence my comment in the other thread

My question to the OP is now you have 2 quotes, what do you think? They are both in the same ballpark in terms of price, and to be honest they both represent the going rate for this sort of site

Sometimes you just need to brief a designer and let them get on with it. Overly faffing about pre-build wastes everyone's time. The conversations you have with your chosen designer ought to be a 2 way process. You are assuming you know what you want brought to the table. invariably We and most other designers will bring ideas to the table that help your business grow and develop

In terms of face to face meetings, we have done this twice (in other words it is quite rare), and the meetings tend to be long, drawn out, and end up with the same conclusions as e-mail/remote desktop/phone meetings

[NextPoint]

Thanks I pretty much know who I am going to use but just wanted a few quotes, anyway thanks for the help (I do need to talk to a few designers).


That's a bit rude to be asking people repeatedly to provide you with information about pricing and technical features when you have no intention to give them the business you propose to give them. At least be upfront about what you are doing instead of using sly tactics to get information from other web designers and developers so that you can use their information to get a better deal from your chosen web designer/developer. Personally, I would have no interest in doing business with someone who acts like this.

[shaun adams]

Thanks for your imput guys

[mhowman]

The actual cost was in excess of 20K due to the sophisticated back end - I should know I paid for it.

[Place of design]

The actual cost was in excess of 20K due to the sophisticated back end - I should know I paid for it.
there you have it - from the horses mouth

There is lot to learn here. Often a website front end is only a small part of a large system in the backend.

[bdw]

The actual cost was in excess of 20K due to the sophisticated back end - I should know I paid for it.


I'm missing something here. The actual cost of what?
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[Place of design]

I'm missing something here. The actual cost of what?
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i assume this (from post 1)

"I am looking at this site www easierprint-trade.co.uk"

[alpha7158]

I am looking at this site easierprint-trade

and wondering what the price for such a project would be, the site is very much similar in products and functionality to how I would like it...
Hi Shaun. I agree with what other people have said about your requirements being a bit fluffy.

If you want a really accurate quote then I recommend that you write 2 bullet pointed lists, one of functional requirements, and one of non-functional. Put as many items into the list that you can think of, but only put things in that you actually want otherwise it could cost you a lot more that you need it to.

Functional requirements are things like "- I need to be able to update the title of the pages", very non specific requirements. You state what you want, not how you want it.

Non functional are things like "- must be coded in php" or "must use a drop down box to select x", these are more about how you want things done.

The first thing you will do with a project is write down these requirements, although the developer will normally do it with you. This is also a really good way of identifying what you actually need. The functional requires are way more important than the non functional, unless you really want something done a certain way as it allows the developer to use their own initiative. They may know a better way to do it, but if you set it in stone that you want it your way you could end up paying more and getting less.

[rock2010]

I estimate £4500

[theoradu]

Sent you a PM.

[masonuk]

Isn't this thread getting old now?

[sands1967]

I estimate £999

[sands1967]

I estimate £45,706

[sands1967]

I could go on .....

[AndyP]

....oh please don't :)

Can't this thread just be put quietly to bed now?

[shaun adams]

Thanks Guys hope we can close this thread now, I realise I had some pretty stupid questions but underneath it all I was just trying to figure it all out.

I have been close to signing up with people and then realised how bad they where making it when I learnt something new (As you could probably understand I was a little anxious spending the best part of £8000 on a website with all the cowboys).

When I had enough information I was able to move on so thanks for helping people and worth every penny of the membership

[MDUK]

So have you ordered a website?