Peter Jones - Dragons den

[thekitchendesigner]

I'm an avid viewer of dragons den, as i note many of you are!

I decided to find out a bit more about those 'dragons' and came across the website for Peter Jones. I had a good look round, and noticed that those with business ideas can submit them to him and he will give a personal opinion.

So, i'm wondering if anyone has submitted any ideas and what the result was, if any???

[mattk]

linky (http://www.peterjones.tv/)

[thekitchendesigner]

ta matt, forgot that bit!

This one http://www.peterjones.tv/index.cfm seems to avoid the flash bit

[mattk]

I might buy a pin-stripe suit like that. And a big leather chair.

[MinuWeb]

might submit an idea to see what happens :D

[SillyJokes]

I really liked his mind set video. I thought it was very compelling.

He is about mine and tophat's age.

But he wouldn't like us as we never wear a suit.

[thekitchendesigner]

i notice that everytime someone appears in jeans, or a bit 'casual' he points it out.

Surprises me though, if you're asking for £50-£200k surely you should make an effort!?

didnt realise it was him that bought red letter days.

[Top Hat]

I really liked his mind set video. I thought it was very compelling.

He is about mine and tophat's age.

But he wouldn't like us as we never wear a suit.

Yes but if we were meeting him and we needed something, I would buy a suit. (If we didn't need anything, I wouldn't, just to piss him off)

[Hayles]

I like the way you think Top Hat :D

[Top Hat]

He is about mine and tophat's age.

And like him, I went to Public school in my early years, and state school when I was older.

Im begining to feel a special bond :shock:

[SillyJokes]

I really liked his mind set video. I thought it was very compelling.

He is about mine and tophat's age.

But he wouldn't like us as we never wear a suit.

Yes but if we were meeting him and we needed something, I would buy a suit. (If we didn't need anything, I wouldn't, just to piss him off)

Don't be silly, Top Hat, he'd probably like your habitual tails and cane.

STOP PRESS: Top Hat IS Peter Jones - evidence? Have you ever seen them together?

[DuaneJackson]

And further indisputable proof, as if it were needed!

http://www.keyone.co.uk/pj.jpg

[WelshPixels]

Duncan Bannatyne is running a competition in his magazine "The Sharpe Edge" where you can win a chance to pitch your idea.

I was tempted to put forward my website idea but I was put off by the lack of confidentiality. Yes I know there is an agreement on the site but I prefer things to be written down and signed.

[thekitchendesigner]

what website is this on??

[WelshPixels]

Its not its a magazine called "The Sharp Edge". Published by http://www.jackspaniels.co.uk.

Its in Smiths now but its only going to be out every other month

[Coding Monkey]

I sent Peter Jones an e-mail a few weeks ago via the website. I got a reply the next day with a one liner comment, but whether it was him, I can't say.

[thekitchendesigner]

what did you email him about??

[Coding Monkey]

I said something about how it was interesting that he was worth more money than all the other 4 put together and was by far the most blunt. Didn't step around the subject, but always tells them whether it's crap or great without trying to sound polite. Maybe just me, but I simply admire the sheer honesty of it.

[Asteeleleith]

This is all well and good, but what is to stop him from telling you it is rubbish, and stealing it?

Or am i being too cynical?

Al

[Asteeleleith]

ps, that said its an inspirational website!

Al

[MinuWeb]

This is all well and good, but what is to stop him from telling you it is rubbish, and stealing it?

Or am i being too cynical?

Al One good story in the press "Peter Jones ripped off my idea" and he wouldn't get any more.

[Robert]

Peter Jones is the only one I like. He's the only one that asks about the individual and where they are coming from.

I like his style.

But I bet each and every one of then would eat their grandmother to screw an extra 5% discount from their suppliers.

[MinuWeb]

I just pitched an idea :D

Won't say what it is, but will update you when I get a reply and how useful it was....

[uksbc]

I just pitched an idea

Won't say what it is, but will update you when I get a reply and how useful it was....

i am intrigued!!! :shock:

[MinuWeb]

Lets just say it is the first time I have ever seriously asked anyone for £125,000 :D :D

[SillyJokes]

oh, here, let me get that for you...

[thekitchendesigner]

it will ne good to hear what the response is vshosting!

did you actually ask for £125k???

[JustOneUK]

Lets just say it is the first time I have ever seriously asked anyone for £125,000 :D :D

so what are your 1st 2nd & 3rd year sales projections? :wink:

[Robert]

Lets just say it is the first time I have ever seriously asked anyone for £125,000 :D :D

Did he ask what you were wearing before he decided?

[Ozzy]

I'd also be interested to hear what sort of response you get ;)

[MinuWeb]

Yes I asked for 125k :D
I did put a shirt and tie on before pitching :D
The projections were such that he would get his investment back in the 2nd half of year 2

[Ozzy]

So, any response yet?

[MinuWeb]

nothing yet....

[Anonymous]

I ws directed yesterday to www.libraryhouse.net. This is American Dargon's Den Doug Richards feedback site where start up and innovative ideas can be mentored.

Looks much more cut and dried than Peter Jones site.

As for the Peter Jones one. did anyone else have a problem getting the links to run?

[caroline]

Yes Silky, I couldn't run it at all :(

[thekitchendesigner]

any reply as yet vshosting??

[MinuWeb]

not yet, hopefully it means he is thinking about it :D

[Coding Monkey]

Or has been laughing at it for the last few days ;)

[MinuWeb]

Got an answer,

He now wants me to submit a more detailed business plan and forcast, allow 2 weeks for him to think about it and then if he is still interested we will arange a telephine meeting.

[thekitchendesigner]

so are you going to go ahead with it?

could you tell whether the reply was directly from him?

it'll be good to follow this should you proceed!

[MinuWeb]

I think I shall pursue it further and see how it goes, the idea of mine is one that I cannot afford to start in the near future without an investor, so nothing really to lose.

I received 2 replies, one was pretty much canned reply and the second was alot more personal, the canned reply had a "peter jones" signature image, the second mail was a plain text mail with "Peter Jones" typed, so it is possible it was from him.

[thekitchendesigner]

would it be ok to keep us updated on how you get on?

[MinuWeb]

sure I will, (without giving away of the biz plan though ;) )

[lgylsen]

Did anyone see Dragons Den last night? hooray for the Lecturer from Loughborough. Finally someone had the courage to stand firm in their boots and not be browbeaten.

[Top Hat]

Did anyone see Dragons Den last night? hooray for the Lecturer from Loughborough. Finally someone had the courage to stand firm in their boots and not be browbeaten.

Yes, Best Dragons Den Ever !!

That bit was fab.

They are gonna sell the plasma screen stand company from under that guy :(

[dagr]

Managed to grab a bit of DD last night. I agree with Top Hat. Given the figures and background of that plasma stand guy, I thought he was giving loads away. I hope the Dragons really invest their time and effort in his company.

[Rob Holmes]

I liked how the 'calm children' woman took Peter Jones and stunned him.

The best sales pitches are stories - and he was reeling after that - totally dizzy and enticed!

Rob

[SillyJokes]

She appeared barking mad but I can see a big market for those calming children tapes - there's the National Childbirth Trust catalogue for a start, Tridias, Urchin, all the top range middle class outlets would be able to sell it.

[Rob Holmes]

Yep - I agree - totally mad - but the products look powerful.

I can think of alot worse things to give children to keep them quiet.

Rob

[MinuWeb]

I was reading about the guy that had the bedlam cube, after getting dragons to agree to invest his bank decided that they would give him a loan, so he no cancelled the deal he had with the dragons.

[Coding Monkey]

I missed it, damnit! Only one I've ever missed and it's not repeated again tonight, or probably ever

[daveashton]

This is a great program because on the outside people are asking for money, but the real win is the skills of the investors and thier contacts.

It also works as great PR for investors and thier own interests.

[ebonybailey]

I had a one2one with Duncan Banatyne, well i say a one2one it was in front of 80 business people and film cameras, nice guy really, simply said that the best way to make money is not to put hurdles in your way, for example " I can't make more money cos that will take more time and I have children to look after"
His view was you are delibrately putting hurdles in your way before you have even thought about how it may be resolved. He's OK.

Michael

[ebonybailey]

i'VE SUBMITTED TOO!!!

[SillyJokes]

a one on one with Duncan Banatyne in front of 80 people - its like a scene from one of my most terrifying yet, strangley erotic nightmares.

I'm sure he really does know what he is doing and he comes over much mroe friendly in that lunchtime business make over show he does.

I get the impression he just had better things to do than Dragon's Den when they were filming. He is so Rude and the cheesy one liners - where do they come from?

[ebonybailey]

I know what you mean, I think in his mind he really does not understand how people can not become millionaires, especially as he only started with One IceCream Van, before that he was on the dole.

Michael

[thekitchendesigner]

dont know if anyone has seen this, but theres an update prog on tonight about those in the first series (which i didnt see!)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dragonsden/series_1_update_index.shtml

also, anyone know of any repeats of last nights prog as i missed the darn thing???

[dagr]

I think the Dragon's only do the TV show for:
a) notoriety & publicity, or
b) as a pure speculative gamble.

I occasionally rub shoulders with "industry" (i.e. not pure financial) investors who are on a wealth par with the Dragons, and honestly, they would never invest anything under a million, and are ideally looking to invest several millions. Investing £100K, say, would only be a distraction.

That's why I said I hope the dragon's actually put some serious time in, but I have my doubts.

David.

[Coding Monkey]

Dragons' Den on in 3 minutes on BBC 2

[bitsnstuff]

Marneta is one of my suppliers! :lol:

I nearly dropped off myself trying to pursuade my 2 year old to imagine she was a princess floating on a fluffy cloud!

They are lovely stories and do work (not a biased opinion - honest).

Kate

[Tazuk]

Submitting your ideas are great, but best to put IP rights on it before you do.
I have looked at investors and through my enquiries i am now recieving help through seeda (south east england development agency) and fse (finance south east) they together have an investment readiness training course.
If any of you are based in the south east please contact them i have actually made better contacts through them in the last 2 months including a 1 hour free session with an IP consultant.
Great service great people.

[junior]

The idea that caught my eye was that man who invented the umbrella vending machine

[quotes4]

I would never pitch an idea through a website. Regardless of whether he's honorable (and i'm sure he is) email can be so easily intecepted that it just isn't secure.

[thekitchendesigner]

Hi VSH

Just wondered if you'd had any developments from your proposal?

Got an answer,

He now wants me to submit a more detailed business plan and forcast, allow 2 weeks for him to think about it and then if he is still interested we will arange a telephine meeting.

[thekitchendesigner]

I just pitched an idea :D

Won't say what it is, but will update you when I get a reply and how useful it was....

Thought i'd rear this one up as were back with the Dragons!

vshosting - did you get anywhere with this, or have any replies???

[manchesterhypnosis]

PJ is a man with lots of "issues", the suit thing being one. There is enough for a Phd thesis in him, I'd really like to have him as a client. How about it Peter, if your watching, I am sure you could afford my fee LOL

[Pilfo]

I've just "Pitched my idea" to Peter Jones's website. Not so much for the money, but more to see what sort of reply I get and what if anything, he thinks of it.

Pilfo

[Shay]

A while back I emailed Simon Woodroffe who was one of the original dragons about my business, he emailed me back to dicuss over the phone and was quite pleasant and it lasted about 20 mins.

It turned out that my idea was a micro investment (20k) therefore not something he could help me with although he liked the idea and gave me a killer tip as a freebie which once I looked into it further was a very good tip which will help me loads.

This was intiially about 7 months ago and about 6 weeks ago rang me out of the blue to ask how it was going and when the site was due for launch and as such is now on the opt in list for when it goes live. Would have been great to have him as an investor but I was happy he took the time out to ring me out of the blue and pass me one lead as well as an idea to make it even better.

[ewan]

Simon seemed a great guy, shame hes not in the current dragon lineup.

[Shay]

I also liked Doug Jones, the american who was quite blunt. He liked his figures and if you couldn't provide the figures it always switched him off.

[The Wholesale Forums]

Also interested in what the latest is on vshosting submission :)

[MinuWeb]

Also interested in what the latest is on vshosting submission :) Didn'r pursue it any further with PJ, working on getting the idea off the ground on my own without any investors involved :D

[The Wholesale Forums]

Didn'r pursue it any further with PJ, working on getting the idea off the ground on my own without any investors involved :D
Fair play! Best of luck with getting the idea out there.. :cool:

[Carl-CSNM]

You can watch the episodes online:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dragonsden/

:D

[level200]

Watched Dragons Den last night and thought it was great and felt inspired afterwards. I especially enjoyed the Truck wash bit, imagine having four dragons competing with each other to invest in you.
£200,000 well earned.

[mattley23]

Watched Dragons Den last night and thought it was great and felt inspired afterwards. I especially enjoyed the Truck wash bit, imagine having four dragons competing with each other to invest in you.
£200,000 well earned.

Same here, i thought that idea was brilliant. Seemed as though he got a good deal even though he had to give away 40% of his business but I guess what he is getting in return is well worth it!

[elizabeth.belhadj]

Who writes this stuff