how to avoid scam seo

[Ali-v-8]

Try this for a quick way of getting through the bottom feeders.
This text below is from wikipedia.
highlight it
copy it
paste it into google search.

"an Internet marketing strategy, SEO considers how search engines work and what people search for. Optimizing a website primarily involves editing its content and HTML and associated coding to both increase its relevance to specific keywords and to remove barriers to the indexing activities of search engines. This is generally done during the design of a website which I try to do for all my website clients."

What you now have is a list of people to lazy to write their own text.
Go to anybodies website take snippets out by the same manner.

Number one listed is the first to have that cache (the originator of the content).

Everyone else are just on the band wagon.

scammers tend to portray other peoples work as their own.

This simple process will give you an insight.
Please note that justy because this process doesnt show them doesnt mean they are a valid company.
Still check into the company back ground.

Search the company name and add word like "con" "fail" "complaint" "ripoff" "lies" etc

[Zeal]

Good Tip Ali ;)

[SFD]

Search the company name and add word like "con" "fail" "complaint" "ripoff" "lies" etc

Weblinx seems to appear for all those terms, yet when you were employed by them they were apparently the best thing since sliced bread.

(until the thread on the hidden link farms embedded into clients' sites, which you knew nothing about)

[Ali-v-8]

Cant speak about them. (sorry)
But If you notice, you will see that they ain't doing as well as they did when i was there. (all complaints are of late)
Also you will see that my ex boss tried to do a post in my name praising himself. (sad) he was bit insultive to.
Back fired on him me thinks.

Like i said cant talk about them.


Weblinx seems to appear for all those terms, yet when you were employed by them they were apparently the best thing since sliced bread.

(until the thread on the hidden link farms embedded into clients' sites, which you knew nothing about)

[SEO Positive]

I cant believe how many out of the top 100 are actually SEO Companies blogs, or pages, and even seo companies who are publishing wikipedias content in article sites.

makes me laugh :D:D:D:D:D

[ric161220]

Try this for a quick way of getting through the bottom feeders.
This text below is from wikipedia.
highlight it
copy it
paste it into google search.

"an Internet marketing strategy, SEO considers how search engines work and what people search for. Optimizing a website primarily involves editing its content and HTML and associated coding to both increase its relevance to specific keywords and to remove barriers to the indexing activities of search engines. This is generally done during the design of a website which I try to do for all my website clients."

What you now have is a list of people to lazy to write their own text.
Go to anybodies website take snippets out by the same manner.

Number one listed is the first to have that cache (the originator of the content).

Everyone else are just on the band wagon.

scammers tend to portray other peoples work as their own.

This simple process will give you an insight.
Please note that justy because this process doesnt show them doesnt mean they are a valid company.
Still check into the company back ground.

Search the company name and add word like "con" "fail" "complaint" "ripoff" "lies" etc

I have to disagree. I personally (on my own site too) use a simple snipit of text from Wikipedia which I use to simply explain to people what SEO is - this explains better than any SEO or marketing company could and is used to explain, in simple terms, to people who may not know exactly what SEO is, exactly what SEO is. If this is wrong then so be it, but there are far too many people out there (naming no names) that are too far up their own backsides to know when someone is simply trying to help, and instead of a simple PM, or better still keeping quiet, they would rather post negative comments to down people in the hope that it makes themselves look better.

[Ali-v-8]

sorry but those who "source" and those who "claim" are not in the same boat.
If you put information on your website then dont give the original person credit then you are committing plagiarism or being shady as i put it, And in my opinion are playing on the naivety of the client.

[Scott-CopyandDesign]

I have to disagree. I personally (on my own site too) use a simple snipit of text from Wikipedia which I use to simply explain to people what SEO is - this explains better than any SEO or marketing company could and is used to explain, in simple terms, to people who may not know exactly what SEO is, exactly what SEO is. If this is wrong then so be it, but there are far too many people out there (naming no names) that are too far up their own backsides to know when someone is simply trying to help, and instead of a simple PM, or better still keeping quiet, they would rather post negative comments to down people in the hope that it makes themselves look better.

With all due respect, your website sort of proves Ali's point correct in this case.

[Mystro]

Try this for a quick way of getting through the bottom feeders.
This text below is from wikipedia.
highlight it
copy it
paste it into google search.

"an Internet marketing strategy, SEO considers how search engines work and what people search for. Optimizing a website primarily involves editing its content and HTML and associated coding to both increase its relevance to specific keywords and to remove barriers to the indexing activities of search engines. This is generally done during the design of a website which I try to do for all my website clients."

What you now have is a list of people to lazy to write their own text.
Go to anybodies website take snippets out by the same manner.

Number one listed is the first to have that cache (the originator of the content).

Everyone else are just on the band wagon.

scammers tend to portray other peoples work as their own.

This simple process will give you an insight.
Please note that justy because this process doesnt show them doesnt mean they are a valid company.
Still check into the company back ground.

Search the company name and add word like "con" "fail" "complaint" "ripoff" "lies" etc

Nice post Ali

I use that tactic alot especially if i ever get any work done on my sites or any kind of publications

Paul

[Ali-v-8]

This is the reason we use copywriters. They are responsible for writing unique unused content for my clients.

With all due respect, your website sort of proves Ali's point correct in this case.

[Scott-CopyandDesign]

This is the reason we use copywriters. They are responsible for writing unique unused content for my clients.

What I mean is that this person has used some Wikipedia text and cannot possibly do good SEO for £50. Their own website has literally no SEO whatsoever, they use a free site builder and their clients on-site SEO is just, well, I don't think I need to say it really.

Simple fact is, good SEO costs a LOT more than £50, unless this person wants to work for 50p an hour.

So you're right so far. :p

[WeblinkPlus]

Simple fact is, good SEO costs a LOT more than £50, unless this person wants to work for 50p an hour.


Nonsense. Big name, £75/month + vat

http://searchmarketing.bt.com/

Wonder if they outsource to India? :D:D:p:p

[ric161220]

What I mean is that this person has used some Wikipedia text and cannot possibly do good SEO for £50. Their own website has literally no SEO whatsoever, they use a free site builder and their clients on-site SEO is just, well, I don't think I need to say it really.

Simple fact is, good SEO costs a LOT more than £50, unless this person wants to work for 50p an hour.

So you're right so far. :p

Let's not start getting personal. I do what I do and I get some great results. Fact.

[Ali-v-8]

Nothing personal.;)
But if you are legit and above board you wont mind listing exactly what you would do for £50 a month.



Let's not start getting personal. I do what I do and I get some great results. Fact.

[ric161220]

Nothing personal.;)
But if you are legit and above board you wont mind listing exactly what you would do for £50 a month.

I'm not getting in to an arguement with you, but I am legit, and above board, and I will discuss my business with all my potential clients, none of which have been dissapointed in my services. Please don't diminish my good name any more, and if you are going to pick points against my business then I suggest you do your research first. That's the matter closed, and any more negative comments will have to be reported.

[Ali-v-8]

I am not bad mouthing you.
I just want to know what an honest person like your self would do for £50 a month.
Me personally would do absolutely nothing for £12.50 a week.
I wouldn't even wake up for that amount.
I give free advise to people that are genuine.
Now please dont take this as a dig or anything but if you are legit please tell me what you would do.
Partial seo is as bad as no seo



I'm not getting in to an arguement with you, but I am legit, and above board, and I will discuss my business with all my potential clients, none of which have been dissapointed in my services. Please don't diminish my good name any more, and if you are going to pick points against my business then I suggest you do your research first. That's the matter closed, and any more negative comments will have to be reported.

[Cornish Steve]

Wonder if they outsource to India? :D:D:p:p
And what, may I ask, is the problem with outsourcing to India? Their workforce is very well educated, highly motivated, and they're willing to work very hard. I've had great success outsourcing to India, and so have very many others. Given the rising costs of doing business in Britain (because of minimum wage, endless regulation, and ridiculous entitlements), it makes perfect sense to outsource some types of work.

You made the comment as something of a slur on India. Let me just point out that companies that cut their costs sensibly will survive at the expense of those who continue to do business the same old way, charging their customers more and more for the privilege.

[Ali-v-8]

Nothing wrong with the professional companies, i can agree with you there. I thing his comment was reffering to the low cost and not as an insult. There are more people with degrees in india that the whole population of the uk.
I think that you forget to mention that if there is an issue, (and this is the main problem) who wants to travel alllll the way to india to try and get a refund.
Same laws do not apply there. for example try and prosecute someone in india for copying your content. you might as well look for elvis


And what, may I ask, is the problem with outsourcing to India? Their workforce is very well educated, highly motivated, and they're willing to work very hard. I've had great success outsourcing to India, and so have very many others. Given the rising costs of doing business in Britain (because of minimum wage, endless regulation, and ridiculous entitlements), it makes perfect sense to outsource some types of work.

You made the comment as something of a slur on India. Let me just point out that companies that cut their costs sensibly will survive at the expense of those who continue to do business the same old way, charging their customers more and more for the privilege.

[WeblinkPlus]

And what, may I ask, is the problem with outsourcing to India? Their workforce is very well educated, highly motivated, and they're willing to work very hard. I've had great success outsourcing to India, and so have very many others. Given the rising costs of doing business in Britain (because of minimum wage, endless regulation, and ridiculous entitlements), it makes perfect sense to outsource some types of work.

You made the comment as something of a slur on India. Let me just point out that companies that cut their costs sensibly will survive at the expense of those who continue to do business the same old way, charging their customers more and more for the privilege.

And where did I make any derogatory comment on India? Too many cornish pasties addled your brain... :-)

[kellym82]

Nonsense. Big name, £75/month + vat

Wonder if they outsource to India? :D:D:p:p

If you look into it in a little more detail they also charge a £100 set up fee, so not quite as cheap as it first appears. Also, this package they are offering is really just the basics (i.e. the bit people can learn themselves!) Their other, more comprehensive SEO package is £349/month +VAT plus the £100 set up fee.

But I would agree with the comment made overall. I'm in the process of learning SEO at the moment, and there is a lot more to it (in terms of hours and knowledge!) than a lot of people seem to think, and than I thought when I started!

On that note, if anyone has knowledge of good SEO courses please pass them on to me! (sorry for going slightly off topic there)

[DoLally]

*goes off to check own site :eek:

[DoLally]

*goes off to check own site :eek:

Phew :D

I tend to read a load of stuff on a subject and then just try to summarise this into my own words - I assume this is what a copywriter would do? Research and then re-write for unique(ish) content?

Also Ali - this is a GREAT tip! If I decided to use this in my hints & tips page on my website, could I do so? And would you want the credit in the article / post or would the credit need to go to this forum?

No idea how it works :D

[Ali-v-8]

Knock yourself out.
credit the forum.


Phew :D

I tend to read a load of stuff on a subject and then just try to summarise this into my own words - I assume this is what a copywriter would do? Research and then re-write for unique(ish) content?

Also Ali - this is a GREAT tip! If I decided to use this in my hints & tips page on my website, could I do so? And would you want the credit in the article / post or would the credit need to go to this forum?

No idea how it works :D

[gatorweb]

I agree, just an examply of lazy and shoddy work.

I do and would expect others to write useful and original text. It's not that hard or time consuming.

There are too many lazy parasites.

Best bit is you can tell the text is from US sites give the Zs.

[gatorweb]

I agree, just an example of lazy and shoddy work.

I do and would expect others to write useful and original text. It's not that hard or time consuming.

There are too many lazy parasites.

Best bit is you can tell the text is from US sites given the Zs.

[WeblinkPlus]

This is total nonsense...

1. There is lots of PLR content out there which people use as is.
2. There are plenty of ready made websites - 'business in a box' - which are sold.
3. There are plenty of courses which include duplicate content.

Do a search on this (http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&source=hp&q=%27Walk+in+their+shoes%2C+and+understand+the+dia logue+the+searcher+is+having+with+the+web%27&btnG=Google+Search&meta=lr%3D&aq=f&oq=%27Walk+in+their+shoes%2C+and+understand+the+di alogue+the+searcher+is+having+with+the+web%27&fp=97c05ea38949a865) - is this because everyone is plagiarising? No it's part of SEM Business Blueprint and buyers of that package are licensed to use it... Does this make them poor SEO's - Who knows? But it's certainly no way to judge someone's abilities. At least they made an effort to buy a course... Would you judge a car mechanic on the basis of his advertising - I certainly know a few who are top class mechanics, but their public interface needs a lot of work! :-)

[regan]

If Wikipedia would sue all ones that use illegal his/her content, will passed decades to solve all cases.:)

[rubycon6]

Try this for a quick way of getting through the bottom feeders.
This text below is from wikipedia.
highlight it
copy it
paste it into google search.

"an Internet marketing strategy, SEO considers how search engines work and what people search for. Optimizing a website primarily involves editing its content and HTML and associated coding to both increase its relevance to specific keywords and to remove barriers to the indexing activities of search engines. This is generally done during the design of a website which I try to do for all my website clients."

What you now have is a list of people to lazy to write their own text.
Go to anybodies website take snippets out by the same manner.

Number one listed is the first to have that cache (the originator of the content).

Everyone else are just on the band wagon.

scammers tend to portray other peoples work as their own.

This simple process will give you an insight.
Please note that justy because this process doesnt show them doesnt mean they are a valid company.
Still check into the company back ground.

Search the company name and add word like "con" "fail" "complaint" "ripoff" "lies" etc
Funny that Ali just searched Adrac scam, rip off etc not good. Thanks for the advice

[Ali-v-8]

Yeah i seen that. My old boss added a fake posting.
Notice that the post was stupidly signed off with a different name. (bye j)
Adding my name just made him feel better, also made another of his clients call me today. Like everyone said "passing the buck"

As for Adrac ltd my department has been created and we have a 100% record so far for SEO. :D
New website nearly finished. (Been too busy with clients websites)



Funny that Ali just searched Adrac scam, rip off etc not good. Thanks for the advice

[etondigitalme]

This is the reason we use copywriters. They are responsible for writing unique unused content for my clients.

I fully agree with you Ali on this one, most SEO experts almost never write the content themselves (and they shouldn't) for a number of reasons:

1 - It takes far too much time.
2 - Most are probably not good copy writers.

It's a much better and more effective approach to hire copywriters to write the content, so I would leave it to the experts (who enjoy writing) to do so.

The SEO expert would simply guide the writers in this case by providing them with the target keywords to use and then make sure they follow specific SEO guidelines such as keyword density, internal links, HTML tags etc...

That's what I've always done and it works perfectly.

Cheers,

Zed

[ComputerCoders]

Too many people try to do absolutely everything themselves. The phrase "Jack of all trades, master of none" springs to mind.

[etondigitalme]

Too many people try to do absolutely everything themselves. The phrase "Jack of all trades, master of none" springs to mind.

Spot on :)

The sooner managers learn to delegate tasks the quicker they will see (good) results. This will also allow them to focus on their area of specialty and dedicate more time to it, which will bring them a step closer to achieving the "expert" status, which doesn't come easy or quickly (and it shouldn't).

[Ali-v-8]

The expert status is being able to figure all issues that cause a website problems in all formats. Mastering html seo is not the same as dynamic websites or flash websites.