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goose87
21st September 2009, 01:20
Dear all,

I recently joined Agel whilst I was abroad in Italy. I am young, motivated and I want to change my life for the better. I am therefore trying to get some advice, tips or whatever from whoever is willing to give it to me.

I'd first like to point out that I would like constructive comments. I know a lot of people don't appreciate network marketing and I can understand why. I have done a lot of detailed research and I would be extremely upset right now if I had invested in some of the other companies out there..

I feel like I have come up against quite a lot of resistence in the UK with people doubting what is potentially possible with this opportunity. Everyone I have had a meeting with so far has stated that the scheme clearly looks like a pyramid scheme, even if they've never heard of network marketing. Those who have heard of other network marketing companies have had bad experiences with hard-sale american tactics in the past and that has caused resistence. The other classic I've heard is that they feel no-one else they know would be interested in this (friends too rich, friends too poor, not enough friends, friends just not interested etc..)

I personally want to change the way I am creating my business, as I'm not happy with the current way it's being done. I want to "re-invent" the way network marketing should be done in the UK. I therefore would like every bit of advice, input or suggestions from anyone here who works on network marketing in the UK and wants to help me develop my skills and improve me knowledge.

I won't rant for too long. I just want to hear from people's experiences, advice you can give me and basically anything useful that will help me and others who read this.

Thanks to everyone in advance,

James.

ethical PR
21st September 2009, 08:41
Hello James

What advice did you get from the organisation you have signed up to, about the best ways to market the opportunity?

They must have lots of experience in this area about what works and doesn't.

Having done lots of research before you invested, I am sure you appreciate that people can be cynical and wary about such structures. That combined with being in the middle of a recessions, means it's a difficult model to promote.

If it's not a pyramid scheme, you need to be able to explain to people in a simple and clear way as to what type of organisation it is, how their investment will be protected etc

Business Spy
21st September 2009, 17:36
I am confused... Can you explain what you mean by network marketing? I have worked in marketing for nearly a decade and from my experience that small phrase can mean anything!

I think you need to be more clear about your aims and motives in order to market more effectively.

garyk
22nd September 2009, 08:34
I personally want to change the way I am creating my business, as I'm not happy with the current way it's being done. I want to "re-invent" the way network marketing should be done in the UK. I therefore would like every bit of advice, input or suggestions from anyone here who works on network marketing in the UK and wants to help me develop my skills and improve me knowledge.

James,

Whilst your intentions should be applauded I think its a bit of a tall order to re-invent the way NM/MLM is perceived/promoted in the UK. You are up against a legacy of many many years for a start. Amway started something like 30 years ago and there have been a whole host of companies that have come (and quite a few gone) since.

As someone who *was* involved in MLM in what I would call its heyday (the late 80s) it has always been oversold by over enthusiastic dirstributors keen to recruit others with very large 'potential' income figures bandied about. I personally knew guys at that time that *were* making phenomenal amounts of money from MLM so yes it is feasible.

I think you need to start with the products first, get people using them and liking them and then your best customers may be interested in the opportunity. The problem I see it with many schemes is whilst the products are of high quality the prices are excessive. That said it still doesn't stop you from selling, price isnt always an issue.

Best of luck!

Gary

goose87
23rd September 2009, 17:41
Dear all,

Thank you for your responses.

Regarding the organisation I am with.. that's the unusual part. I am actually part of an organisation in Italy. I lived in Italy for the last 7 months because I was part of the Erasmus Scheme with my university and then I stayed at my girlfriends for 2 months. I saw her using the products and thought they looked amazing. I asked her what they were etc etc and I got interested in the organisation.

The "leader" of Italy ( the person who brought it to Italy a year ago ) has just been voted the top new leader in the world, due to his growth and changing the methods used for promoting network marketing. I feel it's a lot easier for them because they can escape the american "feel" to the company, thus making it easier.

I have got help from two people in England who are the same rank as the leader in Italy (so earning anything from £100k - £245k a year..jees) and they have tried to be as helpful as possible. The thing I don't understand is that they have used the American format up until only recently. I don't understand how that works. They did try to create a UK presentation, but I didn't like what they had done with that.

The reason I have set myself the high target of reinventing MLM in the UK is for the following reasons:

1) One of the first people I pitched this new business idea too has been the Director of Marketing for the EU in some of massive companies, some of which are from america.

2) I didn't like the American feel to the presentations and the feel of the company when I first watched the presentation. It was merely the normal feel I got from my girlfriend when she explained what was going on that changed my mind, as I don't trust an american person saying "last month I made $1000000000" because I honestly believe it's a lie..

3) I feel that everyone markets the opportunity in the wrong way! I don't know if I am just misunderstanding this opportunity or how "the way" is, but I feel that it's done in the wrong way. The wrong points are emphasised, the wrong points are even made, the words used are always wrong and I feel like I HAVE to change this if I want to succeed in this business.

My father actually said the same thing about getting people to use the products and then get them to understand the business opportunity behind it. I feel this may well be a better way to approach things. I really believe this product is something that is extremely good, extremely catchy and can really get a lot of interest. I just feel that people are marketing it in the wrong way at the moment.

If anyone else wants to mention experiences in the UK market, advice on how to deal with certain situations, and the big one... what do you say if they say "this seems like a pyramid scheme" or "I don't know enough people interested". I really lack experience in this area, and it's a hard one to answer..

Thanks again to everyone to answered, and thank you to everyone who answers in the future.

All the best,

James.

barrieg
28th September 2009, 16:07
The moment someone says it sounds like a pyramid scheme, give up on them , they are wasting your time and you have better things to do than listen to fools.

goose87
7th October 2009, 07:56
I appreciate what you are saying there.. but everyone I have spoken to so far has mentioned that it seems like a pyramid scheme.. so that would mean I would have to give up on everyone..

Some of the people who have had success have said that they either take the people who really want it, or they ignore the people who don't. I can understand that this is the way to do it and it's a good way for things to work, but I don't have 1000s of contacts, so I can't just act like I'm some big important guy and make it sound like I don't bother..

hmmm.. well I'm going to a big national meeting in Venice this weekend, so hopefully I will gain a lot of experience, and most importantly, motivation. I seem to be lacking that at the moment.. lol.

If anyone else would like to reply to my above post, it would be grately appreciated.

Thanks,

James.

ethical PR
7th October 2009, 09:57
It is very difficult to advise you without having an understanding of what product or service it is that you are promoting and how the company operates.

If it's not pyramid marketing, then can you let us know more about how the company operates, for example is it a franchaise? an affiliate scheme? commissioned based?

As I mentioned in a previous post, the company you have joined will be the best ones to advise you on how best to promote the product/service they are offering.

Alphonso
23rd October 2009, 07:40
The network marketing system is a complete set of traffic tools you know how to use. You cannot learn more than one thing at a time. Each tool needs to be used to its full latent or you waste time, money and fall prey to better promises by new tools.

Willself
23rd October 2009, 08:23
JAMES.

One idea that has proved successful in the past is this!! Should anyone say its a pyramid scheme..immediately AGREE with them.. LISTEN to why they think that way...NEVER INTERUPT! then say YES!! i can understand how you might think that.."BUT"the but being your opportunity
to correct their way of thinking!!
ONE word of advice..you must do it empathicley, if you come-over...i told you so...or smarmey in ANY way...you LOOSE!!:eek: