submitting to directorys

[Big J]

Hi All,

Is submitting to directorys worth it for SEO?

If so is it best done manually?

If not manually whats the best auto-submission software?

Thanks all

[Spock]

You don't get much seo value from directory links these days. If you do submit the best way is manually and in a dedicated directory that is related to your product, rather than a general one.

[aymanfarah]

Yes, directory submission works very well but don't let others do the work you need to buy one with affordable price and have a lot of web directories offer you one way backlinks and deep linking like this tool with many lovely features : competetick.com:)

[thebookiesoffers]

Yes, directory submission works very well but don't let others do the work you need to buy one with affordable price and have a lot of web directories offer you one way backlinks and deep linking like this tool with many lovely features : competetick.com:)

thats twice you've mentioned that site, not yours by any chance is it

[chapelman]

We got this lad in India to do ours. He charges $40.00 for submission to I think 100 directories. He's done 2 of our sites and seems straight and quick. If you want more info just PM me and I'll send you his details.

[webpromoterservice]

directory submission can work well for a new site but does not give much value in terms of SEO

[fisicx]

We got this lad in India to do ours. He charges $40.00 for submission to I think 100 directories. He's done 2 of our sites and seems straight and quick. If you want more info just PM me and I'll send you his details.
And I'd bet you a pound to a penny not one of these will help your ranking. There are very few directories that are any use and even it's more for traffic than anything else. Google knows all about directory submission and tends to ignore most inbound links from directories.

[chapelman]

And I'd bet you a pound to a penny not one of these will help your ranking. There are very few directories that are any use and even it's more for traffic than anything else. Google knows all about directory submission and tends to ignore most inbound links from directories.

Sorry if I gave the impression this was going to zoom anyone up the ranking structure. The idea of this is basically to get the site listed on the various search engines, but the good news is it's 400 directories, not 100 as I previously thought.

[fisicx]

Sorry if I gave the impression this was going to zoom anyone up the ranking structure. The idea of this is basically to get the site listed on the various search engines, but the good news is it's 400 directories, not 100 as I previously thought.
But you are already indexed and ranked on all the search engines. Don't mean this to be a fingerpointing exercise but even getting 400 inbound links from directory isn't going to acheive anything except maybe raise a warning flag at Google..

Think about it this way. Google discovers your site through the normal means. It indexes and rank you for specific keywords and other searches. Part of the indexing process is to look for inbound links and decide if they add value. If Google then discovers a lot of new inbound links suddenly appearing it may we decide to investigate further, ignore the links and even give you a bit of a penalty for attempted manipulation. I konw you said you didn't do it for the ranking but Google doesn't konw that.

[SEO Positive]

Hi Big J,

I am one of the few seo's on here who is still a fan of online directories for links (to start a link building campaign) not the only means, but i do think they play a good part in SEO. I use them on my sites, and all my clients sites who seem to rank highly.

however, there are some rules....

The directories should be a mix of general, and niche (if you can) to your industry, and they should be directories that offer oneway links.

a good resource for this is through here...... http://info.vilesilencer.com/

they will even do the submissions for you at a cost. I have not used the submission service myself, but i do have alot of their top 100 directories on my own directory list.

hope this helps.

[chapelman]

Sorry again, I didn't mean for me, I meant for new sites. Our site has been up and running for months, and has it's own peculiar set of problems, really small niche market, no money to promote it, easy for Google to get confused with phone networks, radio networks, computer networks etc etc......

All I am saying is for a new site, getting it submitted to 400 directories for $40 is worth considering, and since the tip came to me from an established SEO consultant who deals with some big national accounts, I'm certainly not brave enough to ring him up and tell him he doesn't know his job.

It's only $40, and it's only for new sites, but if anyone in such a position thinks this idea is pants and not even worth considering, please fell free to ignore it.

Of course If you really want give someone a good laugh, you could always call two or three SEO companies at random, tell them you have a new site, you are hoping to get noticed by the major search engines and ask them what they could do for you for £24.50?

[eventdomain]

Directories need to be researched, so its fair to say that mass submitting to some huge directory 'list' is asking for trouble - for at least 1 directory on the list will be breaking some Google rule, and bring included sites/businesses listed within it, crashing down with a nasty bump.

Directories must be researched properly to get the best results. It's also common knowledge that £50 directory scripts rarely deliver traffic, never mind anything targeted. And I think businesses need to know who owns such sites, unless ofcourse they don't care who their websites are associated with or where their links will end up on. Plonking your link on anything can do untold damage to rankings, reputation and the wallet of course. :D Oh, and lack of ROI.

[chapelman]

Directories need to be researched, so its fair to say that mass submitting to some huge directory 'list' is asking for trouble - for at least 1 directory on the list will be breaking some Google rule, and bring included sites/businesses listed within it, crashing down with a nasty bump.

Directories must be researched properly to get the best results. It's also common knowledge that £50 directory scripts rarely deliver traffic, never mind anything targeted. And I think businesses need to know who owns such sites, unless ofcourse they don't care who their websites are associated with or where their links will end up on. Plonking your link on anything can do untold damage to rankings, reputation and the wallet of course. :D Oh, and lack of ROI.

As a small businessman who hasn't got much time (Uk business forums is different as it's a registered addiction), like most people I just haven't got the time to "research properly" 400 directories, it would take weeks.

I agree that this sort of thing rarely delivers traffic, but that's not the same as never, although I went to massive pains that this was a getting the website noticed by search engines and not any way to directly increase traffic.

Please give me one actual case where an unsuitable link will cause any damage to a site? If you think about it that can't really be the case or a firms competitor would just have to get in touch with a couple of dodgy sites, and request links to their rivals website to do "untold damage to their ranking, reputation and wallet"?

I've just put two links through to MSN from "Pigeon Fanciers in tights", and "Why are you pushing my sheep around.com" so anyone with MIcrosoft shares might do well to off load them now. (sorry lowest form of wit), but I believe all that actually happens is Google and it's rivals just ignore inappropriate links, they do follow them (which leads them to the new site), but as in the case above, they would see pigeons had no connection to MSN and just ignore it.

Google isn't really a monster, and it isn't really in it's interests financial or otherwise to bring down wesites, so unless you try to do something dodgy with a site such as cloaking, hiding text etc stuff which is obviously done deliberately and by the site builder (ie the BMW issue) it tends just to ignore stuff it doesn't like.

Unless of course you know different in which case I'm in doggy doo doo land big time :D

[webgeek]

Yes, directories do not bring traffic.

Sorry to say but directories DO strongly influence SERPS. I've seen dozens of sites ranked top 5 who have ONLY done directory submits.

The key - only submit to PR1+ directories, submit in the right categories, use varied link anchors and descriptions, spread them out over time.

[eventdomain]

like most people I just haven't got the time to "research properly" 400 directories, it would take weeks.

Some big effort is required for sometimes years before a website sees results from linking these days. (in large traffic returns).

But what other choice do you have... Everyone has to put in this effort, they have to buy links, do seo, swap links etc, noone will give anything major for free. There are no free rides anymore, as the web has changed a lot since the late 1990's, most good websites are now paid only, and if you want to be found, then its pay or die time.

We found over 80 dead links this year, and I suggest it was businesses going bust from lack of advertising. This is serious stuff happening and is no joke, this is the worst recession so far, and websites need the best advantage possible and that means attracting traffic via paid links.

[chapelman]

Thanks Webgeek and Eventdomain, this has added to my pathetic knowledge bank on this subject and maybe given me a bit inspiration. :)

[aymanfarah]

In order to drive flood of free targeted traffic from search engines that 90% of internet users from around world use and trust search engines especialy GOOGLE So we need to build one way links to our web beacuse it is more value. therefore the best - easy - no cost place to get huge number of one way backlinks is WEB DIRECTORIES.

There are a lot of directories offer you free link ( one way link ) but it is time consuming to add your web info every time. it is hard work. I will drive you to a filler tool of your web info and you will then submit to a thousands of free directories. here are

;)competetick.com:)

[Spock]

In order to drive flood of free targeted traffic from search engines that 90% of internet users from around world use and trust search engines especialy GOOGLE So we need to build one way links to our web beacuse it is more value. therefore the best - easy - no cost place to get huge number of one way backlinks is WEB DIRECTORIES.

There are a lot of directories offer you free link ( one way link ) but it is time consuming to add your web info every time. it is hard work. I will drive you to a filler tool of your web info and you will then submit to a thousands of free directories. here are

;)competetick.com:)

Keep promoting your product like this and you will get banned ;)

[fisicx]

Sorry to say but directories DO strongly influence SERPS. I've seen dozens of sites ranked top 5 who have ONLY done directory submits.
Can you give an example?

The site in question should only have inbounds from the directories so as to eliminate any other ranking influence.

[Toni Anicic]

Can you give an example?

The site in question should only have inbounds from the directories so as to eliminate any other ranking influence.

And have some competitors that have links not done by directory submitting :)