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Styles UK
6th July 2009, 17:52
For some reason or another my site is not coming up on google for hardly anything!!!
David 64 has had a look at this for me my web designer has also done this but no one can explain why we are not showing...
We are pretty certain we have not been penalized but no one knows why this is happening.
The one search term we do appear in google for is designer casual clothing where we are normally top on page 1 but we dont seem to be getting indexed properly for anything else...
Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!!
Regards
Andy
Ali-v-8
6th July 2009, 17:54
For some reason or another my site is not coming up on google for hardly anything!!!
David 64 has had a look at this for me my web designer has also done this but no one can explain why we are not showing...
We are pretty certain we have not been penalized but no one knows why this is happening.
The one search term we do appear in google for is designer casual clothing where we are normally top on page 1 but we dont seem to be getting indexed properly for anything else...
Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!!
Regards
Andy
website address please
Styles UK
6th July 2009, 17:58
website address please
Sorry i need to make a few more posts yet....
SEO Positive
6th July 2009, 18:09
Sorry i need to make a few more posts yet....
He, he, have a chat in the forum for a bit, then come back, and we will see what we can do for you.
Let me know your addy, and I will try to help you out.
I know that this is happening quite a bit lately in different industries on Google.
Styles UK
6th July 2009, 18:13
He, he, have a chat in the forum for a bit, then come back, and we will see what we can do for you.
Let me know your addy, and I will try to help you out.
I know that this is happening quite a bit lately in different industries on Google.
Will do mate :D
TBH i think maybe google are doing something as i seem to do faily well on yahoo :|
allthingsgifts
6th July 2009, 18:19
The site is stylesukdesignerclothing.co.uk and they are no. 1 for designer casual clothing
Styles UK
6th July 2009, 18:25
The site is stylesukdesignerclothing.co.uk and they are no. 1 for designer casual clothing
Thankyou..
I dont understand why we are ranking so well for that term but virtually nothing for anything else :|:|:(
Ali-v-8
6th July 2009, 18:28
Lack of content
301 redirect not in place
Title repeat and are more a description
i could go on but i think you get the point.
Styles UK
6th July 2009, 18:39
Lack of content
301 redirect not in place
Title repeat and are more a description
i could go on but i think you get the point.
I far as i was aware the 301 was in place, can you elaborate on the lack of content & title repeat....
Delicious Webdesign
6th July 2009, 19:01
I far as i was aware the 301 was in place, can you elaborate on the lack of content & title repeat....
Ali means your non www. is not redirected to your www. version of your site in seo terminology its called canonicalization, google it to find out how to remedy this situation, as your search power could potentially be collated by doing this 301 redirect
Styles UK
6th July 2009, 19:11
Ali means your non www. is not redirected to your www. version of your site in seo terminology its called canonicalization, google it to find out how to remedy this situation, as your search power could potentially be collated by doing this 301 redirect
Thankyou.
Could this be the only problem then?
Delicious Webdesign
6th July 2009, 19:53
like most sites you can improve your seo but there seems to be nothing 'obvious' to stop you ranking highly, would concentrate on content and your titles are so long they could be classed as spammy (try to stick to 60-70 chars) you can safely remove styles uk from all your titles (or put it to the end of the title if you must include it)
Delicious Webdesign
6th July 2009, 19:54
Thankyou.
Could this be the only problem then?
no I would say its one of 10-20 things most seo's would do as a standard on most sites though, especially as it takes about 30 seconds to do !
david64
6th July 2009, 19:58
I think I recommended doing the canonicalisation at some point. In general this is not an issue, but it is something all sites should do and there is certainly no reason why Google should penalise it for not having canonical URLs.
The only thing I can see which might be an issue is there is an iframe with content inside it and duplicate content being loaded via URL. I have not seen that done before. Don't know if that could be a problem.
Only other thing worth mentioning is that there are quite a few domains that are 301ed at that domain, but I don't know what they are. One of the domains that was 301ed (stylesuk.ltd.uk) had noindex,nofollow on it and was never properly listed in Google.
LBtrading
6th July 2009, 21:08
What do you mean not showing up? you have 227 pages indexed in google, so you are in google but you only have 107 backlinks pointing to your homepage according to yahoo and 110 backlinks accross your domain so that implies you have no links pointing to other pages on your site,
there is a difference in being in google and being in the top 10 for certain terms if you could clarify what you mean then we may be able to help,
ie tell us what pages and what terms you want to rank for and we could give some reasons and advice as to why what and when ha
I think I recommended doing the canonicalisation at some point. In general this is not an issue, but it is something all sites should do and there is certainly no reason why Google should penalise it for not having canonical URLs.
The only thing I can see which might be an issue is there is an iframe with content inside it and duplicate content being loaded via URL. I have not seen that done before. Don't know if that could be a problem.
Only other thing worth mentioning is that there are quite a few domains that are 301ed at that domain, but I don't know what they are. One of the domains that was 301ed (stylesuk.ltd.uk) had noindex,nofollow on it and was never properly listed in Google.
I dont thing Google likes iframes too much, particularly if they pull content from off site. Im not sure how much of an issue that would be, but I would dump that iframe all the same.
I would simplify the titles too, just have for example "Paul Smith Designer Clothing" and get plenty of links on the theme of "designer clothing".
I would get the keywords "designer" and "clothing" into your content a bit more, sure you can work those into a few of your product descriptions without looking spammy.
Also I see you have a lot of pages in Google delivering 404 errors, not sure why that is... I saw several after using a site: search to look at some of your pages, like these:
http://www.stylesukdesignerclothing.co.uk/longshanks-n-29
https://www.stylesukdesignerclothing.co.uk/cp-company-n-9
Are these 404 errors appearing when items are out of stock per chance? Better to 301 any end of lines to the root domain IMO... stubs like that are not good.
Jez
LBtrading
6th July 2009, 21:15
Like others have said its the duplicate titles and site link structure that are causing problems with the indexing of your deeper links like in your footer links gstar jackets and stone island jackets are two different pages yet have the same titles etc.
ana1703
7th July 2009, 11:42
Hi there,
Just analysed ur website and found that ur website is ok as per SEO outlook because it shows that 160 webpages have been indexed by GOOGLE which is a very good sign. But ur website is not built keeping SEO optimisation in mind. The webpages are divided in frames (a syntax used while coding) which is not at all SEO friendly as GOOGLE is unable to establish links with other websites. Moreover for ranking purposes you need to put in rich textual content but you have many images which isn't GOOGLE friendly. Use of Alt tags has also been very minimal. You need to do 2 very important things things:
Optimise the current website content
Add optimised website content
This can be done through the following ways:
On page SEO
-Keyword search
-title,HTML & Meta tags
OFF page SEO
-Articles submission
-Blog posting
-One way & Two way link building
Social Media Optimisation
-Blog participation
-Forum participation
-Social Bookmarking
-Directory listing
Hope I could answered your query. Do let me know if you want to know more at anamika(AT)business-innovations(DOT)net.
Regards:)
Ali-v-8
7th July 2009, 14:08
On page SEO
-Keyword search
-title,HTML & Meta tags
this i agree with but once you make those changes let it settle first
Private Detective London
7th July 2009, 14:19
The site also seems very, very slow to me.
Place of design
7th July 2009, 14:39
page load error
Styles UK
7th July 2009, 16:19
What i meant was we are not ranking highly for hardly any of our keywords on google but doing fairly well on yahoo :|
You will see on the scroll down box on the homepage i have quite a few keywords although designer clothing & the brands i sell are probably the main terms i wish to rank for?
Regards
Andy
What do you mean not showing up? you have 227 pages indexed in google, so you are in google but you only have 107 backlinks pointing to your homepage according to yahoo and 110 backlinks accross your domain so that implies you have no links pointing to other pages on your site,
there is a difference in being in google and being in the top 10 for certain terms if you could clarify what you mean then we may be able to help,
ie tell us what pages and what terms you want to rank for and we could give some reasons and advice as to why what and when ha
Styles UK
7th July 2009, 16:25
Thanks for the reply
The iframe i have spoken to my web designer & hes reply is this
The iframe – whilst it is true that Google doesn’t like iframe’s in general, the way that yours is setup means that it shouldn’t be a problem, Google doesn’t see iframes (it ignores them) but what I have done is make it so that Google see’s the content of the iframe on the actual page where as people see the iframe. It’s fairly normal to do this..
Im not a 100% per cent sure but the 404 errors maybe coming from the fact we had a old site and the urls dont exist anymore?
Regards
Andy
I dont thing Google likes iframes too much, particularly if they pull content from off site. Im not sure how much of an issue that would be, but I would dump that iframe all the same.
I would simplify the titles too, just have for example "Paul Smith Designer Clothing" and get plenty of links on the theme of "designer clothing".
I would get the keywords "designer" and "clothing" into your content a bit more, sure you can work those into a few of your product descriptions without looking spammy.
Also I see you have a lot of pages in Google delivering 404 errors, not sure why that is... I saw several after using a site: search to look at some of your pages, like these:
http://www.stylesukdesignerclothing.co.uk/longshanks-n-29
https://www.stylesukdesignerclothing.co.uk/cp-company-n-9
Are these 404 errors appearing when items are out of stock per chance? Better to 301 any end of lines to the root domain IMO... stubs like that are not good.
Jez
Styles UK
7th July 2009, 16:29
There was a problem with our server earlier today.....
Andy
The site also seems very, very slow to me.
OldWelshGuy
7th July 2009, 16:32
Your backlink footprint isn't good enough to rank for the sort of phrases you are looking to rank for. You need some co-ordinated backlinsk all of your links are too your homepage which isn't what Google would expect from an ecommerce store. Ecom stores normally get deep linked to product pages (if their products are good). :)
Styles UK
7th July 2009, 16:32
Cheers for the reply
If you look on the scroll down box on the homepage you will see it is crammed with keywords......
Do you think our meta tags need changing as well Ali?
Regards
Andy
On page SEO
-Keyword search
-title,HTML & Meta tags
this i agree with but once you make those changes let it settle first
OldWelshGuy
7th July 2009, 16:36
Your keywords meta is crammed to the brim. If you are going to use this, then use it properly or not at all. Curently it is a spam signal. Your homepage title is very weak that needs sorting out also. You are using zencart, which is easy to optimise :)
Hello Andy,
I think you are all over the place with this.
You need to prioritise.
Meta tags are a minor on site element, title tags on the other hand are (arguably) the most important on site factor, and it seems to me you have been told by several people that they need changing.
So, why not just crack on and start with your title tags and take it from there... worry about what to do next once you have your titles sorted.... or at least in progress.
You can get someone link building for you in parrallel with the on site work, they are not interdependant, so, if you know someone that can get you links, kick that off as well.
Jez
buyfromtheuk
7th July 2009, 20:51
Can someone check out my website and give me some tips for how I can climb the google ranks? buyfromtheuk . co .uk
david64
7th July 2009, 22:23
Everyone has missed the problem here, which was not explicitly stated in the op.
The problem is that this site will not come up in Google for text on the page. If you copy text from any page and Google it, the site will not come up.
The problem originated, I think, in December 2008. The site went live on the domain stylesuk.ltd.uk and up until May it had a noindex.nofollow meta on it, which I pointed out and was subsequently removed. Andy then changed his domain to stylesukdesignerclothing.co.uk and 301 redirected stylesuk.ltd.uk at that. Since that domain has been indexed, the site has not come up for any text that is found on the page.
For example, if you Google the company number, the site doesn't comes up:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=05289159
If you Google it with the site command, it does.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=05289159+site%3Astylesukdesignerclothing.co.uk
This is a classic example of a penalty.
I suggested that the site was left to see if it recovered, as is often the case on new domains.
So, Andy is not interested in increasing his rankings. He is interested in getting his site to come up for its own name.
@buyfromtheuk (http://www.ukbusinessforums.co.uk/forums/member.php?u=48710) - best start a new thread for your site.
Hi
You need much more text than your currently have, try adding something everyday if you can, blogs & news items are a great way to do this.
Also, as mentioned above you need a 301 redirect in place, this will really help. Also make sure all of your H1 tags are set up properly.
Cheers
Jamie
Styles UK
8th July 2009, 16:17
Just to say thanks to everyone for their replies, i will be doing as much of the work as possible myself along with my web designer & David64....
Once changes have been made i will come back to you for your opionions then :D
Regards
Andy