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webit
25th July 2005, 08:13
We're made the Alexa top 100k

Alexa: 90,668
Netcraft: 76,209

Google PR: 1!! - well Google hate us for the moment! - work in progress!

From www.alexa.com

'But how much traffic do these sites get? It depends on your Alexa Traffic Rank. Let's break it down by Alexa's Rankings, starting with the Top 500. Out of a total of 18 million sites to choose from, the Top 500 represent less than .003% of sites. But, as you would expect, these sites get a disproportionate amount of traffic. In fact they get 45% of all traffic. No, that's not a misprint. The odds that any Web surfer in the world is on a Top 500 site at any give time is about 50/50.

Moving down the rankings, if you take Alexa's Top 100,000 sites you'll find that almost 3 out every 4 clicks are spoken for. In other words, almost 75% of all the traffic on the web goes to the sites in the Top 100K list, leaving the remaining 18 million or so sites to fight over the scraps.

Like the distribution of wealth on the planet, the distribution of traffic on the Web is extremely lopsided. The Top 500 are champagne and caviar. Sites 501 - 100,000 are meat and potatoes. The rest are hungry.'

Ozzy
25th July 2005, 08:23
Well I am impressed, as these forums at also Meat & Postato :) 89,474 on Alexa!

othellotech
25th July 2005, 17:43
Where do alexa get this rubbish ?

18 million sites ...

what did someone just wake up one morning and type the first number they could think of ? it bears no relation to number of domains registered, and there's absolutely no way they could even come close to *knowing* how many sites there are.

And arent the alexa "rankings" still simply some dodgy count based on how many people tricked into downloading their spyware visited a url.

at least netcraft attempt to do it scientifically and come up with a conservative estimate of 70 million.

Webstuff
25th July 2005, 18:00
Snappy :P but I agree, I'm very unsure about Alexa's systems - my webstats and Alexa's click-through stats for a couple of my sites really don't come close...

Rob Holmes
25th July 2005, 18:26
Alexa users tend to visit their own sites more which basically increases their ranking and artificially inflates their sites within alexa, theres also the argument that most households don't use alexa so they are only the rankings of a narrow band of internet user (mainly webmasters)

So although it's a nice feeling being in the top few hundred thousand I believe the reality is that it is a weighted number towards alexa 'style' users.

Does that make sense?

Rob

webit
25th July 2005, 19:25
88.2% of statistics are made up on the spot." -- Vic Reeves

Whist I am more inclined to believe the Netcraft figure:

A: Alexa give me a button to put on my site
B: Alexa compile a report that people pay $3000 for that lists the top 100k sites.

epiphany
25th July 2005, 19:52
In Google I trust!

othellotech
25th July 2005, 19:55
Whist I am more inclined to believe the Netcraft figure:
A: Alexa give me a button to put on my site
B: Alexa compile a report that people pay $3000 for that lists the top 100k sites.

netcraft will give you a button if you want
have alexa *actually* sold any ?
and many business will buy surverys that list them just to show prospective clients - its how the who-who scam is still going on !

Ozzy
25th July 2005, 20:05
Ok Rob, you've extinguished my fire :) Still, it was nice whilst it lasted and I did realise that Alexa is a bit naff.

Although, there is a very reliable source from HitWise that bases their stats on ISP radius/cache logs.

webit
25th July 2005, 20:06
I've looked but not found a netcraft button.

Not sure about the surveys, I guess that if no-one did then they'd drop the price?

Trust me, no one is more confused about the stats than me.

webit
25th July 2005, 20:17
Although, there is a very reliable source from HitWise that bases their stats on ISP radius/cache logs.

United Kingdom US$ 930.00 / Report !!!

I think for joe punter/Your standard Press Release Alexa/Netcraft is fine.

Webstuff
25th July 2005, 20:50
Ozzy, your forum seems to be doing fine for visitors ;)

Webit - does your website require a reciprocal link from all members? If so, just wait till Googles next crawl ('crawl' being the operative word, its too slow), and you should start picking up. I found that a lot of my sites do best in Yahoo though, and most of my hits come through Yahoo / MSN / the ones with the strange names.

epiphany
25th July 2005, 22:27
Google has just done a crawl :D It's been about 3 months since the last one so you will probably have to wait as long again until the next one. In that time we took one of our new sites from a page rank of 0 to a page rank of 4 :) www.writingworld.org Just shows you how quick search engine optimization can work.