PDA

View Full Version : "Expenses" for "partnership" (allowable/non allowable/how?)


YourFriendlyHelp
13th April 2009, 15:46
Hi (again ;))

Right - assuming all goes well we'll have a husband & wife business partnership in the next week or so. We will be speaking to HMRC etc and registering as self employed, and therefore I understand I will have to do 3 tax returns; Mr; Mrs & Business. I will be asking such questions to HMRC/Business link - but also like real advice :)

We will be using 1 bed of our 3 bed house as office.

We expect to use existing cars and not make them company cars.

Couple of silly questions then:-

1 - is there a list somewhere of allowable "expenses" that can be taken off before taxable profit? Is there a guide? HMRC/IR list etc? *

2 - we will be house based and therefore need to drive to where the jobs take us (service provision) - and therefore, for example, incur petrol costs. Can I simply keep track of these and get us both to claim expenses out of the company bank at 40ppm? (or whatever the limit is for engine vs. mileage etc)?

2a - if mileage is claimable, I assume things like car insurance/maintenance is a personal cost and therefore not expensable?

3 - If "personal expenses" (e.g. petrol, train fair etc) are permited to be taken out, how do I account for this in my accounts package? I am not planning on using the payroll funcion as there is just "us", but do I just set us up as a "supplier" and "pay the expenses to us as the supplier?"

* I have prepared/submitted our tax returns previously without issue, including some fairly complex ones (property rental) without issue - so not a full novice on the returns - and previously I've just had the IR guides and a bit of cheek :).

(will be using MS Office accounting 2009)

Thanks for ideas :)

CassioAcc
13th April 2009, 16:33
The allowable expenses will be anything incurred wholly for the business. The help sheets from HMRC list some examples. If you claim the mileage cost then this covers all servicing and running costs of your vehicle. Any personally paid items are expensed in your software and coded as distributions to owner - no need to set yourself up as a supplier.

YourFriendlyHelp
13th April 2009, 16:56
Thanks.
This "distibutions to owner" flag, where might one find such a thing or how its done in MS Office accounting express? Can't find it (app still *very* new to me and I'm working/playing at the moment)

CassioAcc
13th April 2009, 18:10
It depnds how you set up the company. It should be on the chart of accounts ( under Company/ Comany lists) - if it not there you may need your chart of accounts checked.

YourFriendlyHelp
13th April 2009, 18:58
OK cheers.
Using a default template chart of accounts so will see what I can find - still learning app so it may be obvious

CassioAcc
13th April 2009, 19:17
I'm sure you will get the hang of it soon. If it is not on there then you can add a new equity account to use.

YourFriendlyHelp
13th April 2009, 19:33
Hi
Got it (I think)
If I set us up as employees (just a name record - nothing else required) - I can then do "Reimburse Employee" which allows us to add expenses (e.g. petrol @ 40ppm etc) or whatever else, and choose the bank account to pay it from.
This "removes" the amount from the business account in a traceable way and also logs the costs against the correct expense code in the chart of accounts.

It all "feels" right anyway - without having to make an employee a full PAYE record! Phew.