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mattye
9th March 2009, 09:25
Hi all,

I have an accounts question regarding rebate in tax to employee and how to show this in my Ltd Company accounts. Firstly we are only a two person company and up till now i've done our accounts without any big dramas.

My question is about how you show a tax rebate in your accounts and the affect it has on Profit & Loss sheet.

Up till now I've set up a 'Pot' for each accounting activity. For example a 'pot' for fuel expense, PAYE and IT expenses etc. As a payment is due from a 'pot' then I show a credit from the business account into the pot and then a payment out. This ensures that i account for all monies comming out of the business account.

After using the HMRC employer CD and changing my job I was due a tax rebate which was shown using the HMRC calculators and P11 sheet. The company paid this initially and then claimed the rebate paid back from HMRC. There was no problem and the company received the rebate.

I showed the rebate payment as monies going out of the PAYE 'pot' and so it showed as a 'negative' which was replaced when the rebate was paid and showed as zero. (i.e. monies into the 'pot' was balanced by monies out'.

Because the rebate was not shown as income on the profit and loss sheet I seem to have a difference in what money 'should' be in the business account and what is 'actually' in the business account by the same amount as the rebate.

Have I shown this rebate correctly or does it need to be shown as income into the company?

Sorry its such a long question but I want to give anyone reading this as much information as possible.

Any comments much appreciated.

elainec100@cheapaccounting
9th March 2009, 10:20
It won't show on the P&L account but will be on the balance sheet.

Entries

Debit PAYE owed
Credit bank PAYE paid to you

Debit bank for PAYE rec'd from HMRC
Credit PAYE control account and cancel out above entry

mattye
10th March 2009, 08:42
Thanks Elainec100 for the prompt reply.

Would I then be right in thinking that this rebate to the company from HMRC, that is not business income and therefore not liable for Corp tax, is availble to be distributed as dividends as it now shows as profit in the company accounts.This would have been the case if the monies were not paid initially to the employee.

Regards

elainec100@cheapaccounting
10th March 2009, 09:09
Thanks Elainec100 for the prompt reply.

Would I then be right in thinking that this rebate to the company from HMRC, that is not business income and therefore not liable for Corp tax, is availble to be distributed as dividends as it now shows as profit in the company accounts.This would have been the case if the monies were not paid initially to the employee.

Regards

Not the case at all

As I said the entries do not hit the P&L - so it is not income and cannot be taken as dividends.

It should not be showing in the profit if you have followed the entries correctly.

So I think you have got something wrong!